Joining a fraternity

BemoreLXA · #1 03-18-2011, 11:40 PM

haha I'm glad I didn't have to go through that

excelblue · #2 03-19-2011, 02:21 AM

The 4S's applied to me as well, and I was actually one of the co-founders of my chapter. The entire class just did it after some consultation with alumni in the area. Though, sometimes, we wear the pins with t-shirts.

There may be certain standards of dress that may be expected of you, and while it may feel weird to begin with, you'll eventually get used to it. If you wear clothes nice enough for the pin, you'll look sharper / more grown up.

I highly suggest talking to the people who offered you a bid about the clothing question. Just casually bring it up and see what they say.

MysticCat · #3 03-19-2011, 08:56 AM

Count me in on the 4S rule, too (though it was a while back for me). I know there's been a discussion about it before -- it's very common as I recall.

lucgreek · #4 03-19-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Count me in on the 4S rule, too (though it was a while back for me). I know there's been a discussion about it before -- it's very common as I recall.

I always thought it was near-universal except for the groups who revamped their 'pledging' (LXA, for example) since wearing the pin at all times can be considered 'hazing'

MysticCat · #5 03-19-2011, 05:08 PM

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I always thought it was near-universal except for the groups who revamped their 'pledging' (LXA, for example) since wearing the pin at all times can be considered 'hazing'

I think you may be right. It's actually in our General Regulations that "[t]he probationary member pin shall be worn at all reasonable times (i.e. probationary members shall not be required to wear the pin during sleep, at times when it could cause injury, etc.)."

crusse10 · #6 03-23-2011, 04:11 PM

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I think you may be right. It's actually in our General Regulations that "[t]he probationary member pin shall be worn at all reasonable times (i.e. probationary members shall not be required to wear the pin during sleep, at times when it could cause injury, etc.)."

For us, it's required whenever he is wearing a shirt with a collar.

lovespink88 · #7 03-19-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lucgreek

I always thought it was near-universal except for the groups who revamped their 'pledging' (LXA, for example) since wearing the pin at all times can be considered 'hazing'

During my 4 years in school, I don't think I ever saw a guy wearing a pledge pin around campus. And I can assure you that the majority of groups don't have a revamped pledge process. Maybe the campus culture has something to do with it?

Psi U MC Vito · #8 03-19-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88

During my 4 years in school, I don't think I ever saw a guy wearing a pledge pin around campus. And I can assure you that the majority of groups don't have a revamped pledge process. Maybe the campus culture has something to do with it?

At least with Psi U, we wear it on the innermost layer, so you usually wouldn't see it.

LaneSig · #9 03-19-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88

During my 4 years in school, I don't think I ever saw a guy wearing a pledge pin around campus. And I can assure you that the majority of groups don't have a revamped pledge process. Maybe the campus culture has something to do with it?

Not being snarky, but maybe you just didn't notice it. Sigma Chi pledges always had to wear their pledge pin. Although, pledge pins can only be worn with a collared shirt (so, Polo type is ok). No t-shirts and pledge pins together.

lovespink88 · #10 03-19-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

At least with Psi U, we wear it on the innermost layer, so you usually wouldn't see it.

That makes sense!

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Originally Posted by LaneSig

Not being snarky, but maybe you just didn't notice it. Sigma Chi pledges always had to wear their pledge pin. Although, pledge pins can only be worn with a collared shirt (so, Polo type is ok). No t-shirts and pledge pins together.

This is a very definite possibility, lol

My fiance's good friend lived with a Sigma Chi and I remember that he ate dinner with all of us a few times during our freshmen year. I don't ever recall seeing a pledge pin. But as you mentioned, maybe I just didn't notice.

But that brings up a question--so if you HAD to wear your pledge pin everywhere during pledging...and you HAD to wear a collared shirt with your pin...did that mean that you HAD to wear a collared shirt everywhere?

And come to think of it, I never saw my fiance wear a pledge pin either...and I saw him quite often when he was pledging. From what I understand, his chapter was pretty traditional.

BemoreLXA · #11 03-19-2011, 06:07 PM

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I always thought it was near-universal except for the groups who revamped their 'pledging' (LXA, for example) since wearing the pin at all times can be considered 'hazing'

I don't think its hazing, i just think its fucking retarded to think that wearing a pin 24/7 is a sign of you being a worthy aspirant to come into our bond.

what happens if you don't wear it? They drop you? Its stupid haha

MysticCat · #12 03-19-2011, 06:22 PM

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I don't think its hazing, i just think its [sorry, I'm not even quoting it] to think that wearing a pin 24/7 is a sign of you being a worthy aspirant to come into our bond.

Who said that was the reason for doing it?

But since you think it's stupid, I'm glad for you that you joined a group that doesn't do it. Meanwhile, those of us who do require it will give your opinion the due it's worth -- none.

BemoreLXA · #13 03-19-2011, 06:26 PM

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Who said that was the reason for doing it?

But since you think it's stupid, I'm glad for you that you joined a group that doesn't do it. Meanwhile, those of us who do require it will give your opinion the due it's worth -- none.

Thats awesome. I chose Lambda Chi for a few of the reasons in the pledge process but mostly others.

I also apologize for assuming, but I just didn't see another reason to wear a pin 24/7 haha

lucgreek · #14 03-19-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

I don't think its hazing, i just think its fucking retarded to think that wearing a pin 24/7 is a sign of you being a worthy aspirant to come into our bond.

what happens if you don't wear it? They drop you? Its stupid haha

Well your group doesn't have pledging, so we don't expect you to understand.

But aside from that, is LXA the only IFC group that uses the term aspirant? I've only heard it in a NPHC/MGC context before.