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Old 03-18-2011, 12:10 PM
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Her parents made the ultimate decision, though.

Also, 4chan has published information about her school, her school's calendar, and were talking about doing some kind of Operation Black Friday today.
That's what I'm saying. How did they get that info? Apparently her parents didn't impress upon her to keep it private. In this day and age, you have to assume that when you become ANY sort of public figure, anything that people can access, they will. If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

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Old 03-18-2011, 12:20 PM
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That's what I'm saying. How did they get that info? Apparently her parents didn't impress upon her to keep it private. In this day and age, you have to assume that when you become ANY sort of public figure, anything that people can access, they will. If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

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Anyway, this young lady is 13.

If people have an issue with her parents, take it to her parents. Leave this little girl alone. People, especially adults since I expect more from adults than from children, need to laugh at the song without turning everything into a batshit crazy spectacle.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:50 PM
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@knight_shadow: She's right. The fact that people are talking about her song and the song is stuck in some people's heads (I refused to listen to the entire song because I wasn't going to do that to myself--I listened to the "Bob Dylan" version twice, though) means that she has some notoriety.
I don't dispute that the song is putting her name out there, but it's out there for the wrong reasons. Unless her voice matures and she comes out with some legit, non-Ark Music Factory hits, she'll go down in history as a joke.

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If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.
I agree with this re: criticism, but...

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Also, 4chan has published information about her school, her school's calendar, and were talking about doing some kind of Operation Black Friday today.
...obviously this is going too far.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:54 PM
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I agree with this re: criticism, but...



...obviously this is going too far.
Yes it is. But if you're savvy enough to market yourself on the internet, you're also savvy enough to know that there are batshit psychos who do crap like that. Proceed accordingly.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:58 PM
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Yes it is. But if you're savvy enough to market yourself on the internet, you're also savvy enough to know that there are batshit psychos who do crap like that. Proceed accordingly.
Right.

I think that, because of how quickly this song blew up, she and her parents weren't prepared for the privacy breaches, so having websites expose the information is not surprising (although it still shouldn't have been done).

I call BS on the "cyber-bullying" part, though. If you want to be in the limelight, you have to be able to take criticism.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:05 PM
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That's what I'm saying. How did they get that info? Apparently her parents didn't impress upon her to keep it private. In this day and age, you have to assume that when you become ANY sort of public figure, anything that people can access, they will. If you don't want to put up with that, don't be a public figure.

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Actually, they got it from a kid who went* to school with her.

*kid who posted it no longer goes to school there.

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Old 03-18-2011, 01:09 PM
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Actually, they got it from a kid who goes to school with her.
See my above post re batshit psychos.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:11 PM
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See my above post re batshit psychos.
If everyone "proceeded accordingly", nothing would be on the internet. Including all of us.

That doesn't mean she's getting what she deserves when people are going out of their way to harass her (which is what the 4chan plot boils down to, although I'm not sure if they carried it out) for putting something on the internet.

Criticism of her stupid video and stupid song are fine by me, even jokes about it are fine, but at some point a line is crossed when information is published that not only puts her safety at risk but that of her classmates as well. The kid's in 8th grade, come on.

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Old 03-18-2011, 01:55 PM
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If the kid wants to act like an adult, she should expect to be treated like one. Again, I’m not saying she deserves this, but to think that this information absolutely, positively would never be leaked is ignorant. This is the risk you take when plastering yourself all over tv/movies/the internet.

In my opinion, to claim this is cyber-bullying is a bit of a stretch.

Serious question (to those lawyers out there) – I know that cyber-bullying is still a fairly new concept, so maybe no one will really be able to answer this, but… would the burden of proof be similar to that of libel and slander, in regard to the difference between these crimes being committed against someone famous vs. someone like you or me?
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:26 PM
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If the kid wants to act like an adult, she should expect to be treated like one.
Did I miss where she's acting like an adult?
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:21 PM
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I think this may have been mentioned, but nonetheless I present to you the Bob Dylan version



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FISH...layer_embedded
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:09 AM
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Did I miss where she's acting like an adult?
Well, clearly she isn't acting like an adult in the song...

I simply meant in terms of singing/making a video/wanting the world to see it/wanting to be famous, etc.

Teen stars don't live a kid's life. And she sounds like she wants the fame without all of the criticism.
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