Texas A&M Rush as a Sophomore

[AOII Angel]

BTW, not all podunk chapters have 12 members. My chapter had up to 120 members when I was in school. I know tier 1 chapters that aren't as big. I love GC train wrecks!

[ASTalumna06]

The fact is, saying that any Greek chapter sucks (whether they're at OMG BEST SCHOOL EVER!! or at Podunk U.), even if it's just a general statement/comparison/simile/whatever, is going to piss off some people.

Just don't do it.



(Thanks 33girl for this wonderful image!)

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.

Really? I had no idea that numbers for fraternities at A+M vs TxState vs UTA, et al were so close. Interesting.

[dnall]

Almost all campuses there are fewer sororities with bigger chapters. A sorority with 120 members is I think pretty normal in most tier 2 schools. (I personally don't like organizations much bigger than that because it becomes infinitely harder to maintain brotherhood/sisterhood, focus on the purpose of the organization, and give people a legitimate chance to lead.)

Fraternities on the other hand tend to have 50-100% more orgs than the sororities & half the members on average. The majority of greek systems in tier 1 universities have 15-20+ fraternity chapters that are over 100 members, and all the financial and campus influence aspects that come with it.

A&M is a tier 1 research university. It is supposed to be a premier undergrad school with top grad programs fed by tier 2 state schools. A&M's greek system (the fraternities in particular) is significantly different than any other greek system because of the Corps. The weird thing about that one location is sororities are top tier, while fraternities are mid-2nd tier in size and nature. This is all very black and white information. I'm not sure what the issue is.

[dnall]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Really? I had no idea that numbers for fraternities at A+M vs TxState vs UTA, et al were so close. Interesting.

That's what I'm saying. The fraternity system at A&M is on par with those other schools. That doesn't make it a bad thing, it's just at a certain level which is well below average for a tier 1 school. While sororities are right where you would expect them to be (in size, quality, etc) at such a premier school. It's an unusual place where a lot of advice that works most other places may or may not apply very well.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by dnall

I'm not sure what the issue is.

I don't think most people in or out of Texas really "get" A&M.


Campus life operates with a different mind-set than most Universities because of the Corps. I don't think people realize how strongly influential the Corps is to the identity of A&M because for so long that was the strongest identity A&M had, and still does to a large extent.


Corps guys like to wear a t-shirt that says on the front: "Rent a friend", on the back: "...join a frat."

Even though the overall numbers of the Corps may be getting smaller, they still have a strong influence on the campus.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

That's what I'm saying. The fraternity system at A&M is on par with those other schools. That doesn't make it a bad thing, it's just at a certain level which is well below average for a tier 1 school. While sororities are right where you would expect them to be (in size, quality, etc) at such a premier school. It's an unusual place where a lot of advice that works most other places may or may not apply very well.

Well, yeah -- A+M in general is an odd place. I knew that the Corps was a big deal, but every time I've visited, sororities and fraternities seemed miles ahead of the "Tier 2" universities in the state.

[SWTXBelle]

Oh, the Corps will always be an extremely important and influential group. My point is that it is no longer "running the school", and the fraternities with which I am familiar (admittedly, a small number) are in no way, shape or form lacking in quality (of course, that is a very subjective term).

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by dnall

Actually I have a masters degree from there and was advisor for a chapter there for several years.

I'm not claiming to be any great authority on the place. But, what am I wrong about?

Does the Corps not still pretty much run that school just like the last hundred years? Do sororities not do lots of events with them or other groups, versus fraternities?

Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.

I mean hey, maybe I'm out of touch and completely wrong. Just providing an observation. I would expect people that know the campus to provide their observations as well and maybe the girl can figure out what's going on.

The very fact that you refer to THE University of Texas as "UTA" shows your lack of understanding. I really hate being put into the position of defending Aggies, but the situation there is far less grim than you describe.

Please confine your sorority recruitment advice to your own lane at your podunk school in Oklahoma.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

The very fact that you refer to THE University of Texas as "UTA" shows your lack of understanding. I really hate being put into the position of defending Aggies, but the situation there is far less grim than you describe.

Please confine your sorority recruitment advice to your own lane at your podunk school in Oklahoma.

OR...he could be talking about THE University of Texas at Arlington.

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

OR...he could be talking about THE University of Texas at Arlington.

In your dreams.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

In your dreams.

Originally Posted by dnall

Are there 20 fraternities there over 100 members with giant legitimate houses where most sorority girls spend 3-4 days of every week at parties? Or is social life focused elsewhere, maybe 1-2 fraternities are over 100, 20 others mostly under 70, most are tiny. The total number of people in fraternities is lower than TxState; barely bigger than SFA, Sam, UNT, UTA, etc; less than half the size of Tech; and, dwarfed by Texas... while Sororities have about 250% more members than the guys, large chapters, solid houses, and a whole lot don't think fraternity guys are exactly the best people on campus.

You were saying?

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

You were saying?

So sorry. I don't spend every waking moment of every day reading posts here like some, so I suppose my reading comprehension skills are lacking at times.

The point is he still isn't the great Greek oracle of Texas schools and he should stick to his little corner of his own lane.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

So sorry. I don't spend every waking moment of every day reading posts here like some, so I suppose my reading comprehension skills are lacking at times.

You're right. Why read threads that you post in?

The point is he still isn't the great Greek oracle of Texas schools and he should stick to his little corner of his own lane.

...said the Longhorn in an Aggie thread?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by dnall

Almost all campuses there are fewer sororities with bigger chapters. A sorority with 120 members is I think pretty normal in most tier 2 schools. (I personally don't like organizations much bigger than that because it becomes infinitely harder to maintain brotherhood/sisterhood, focus on the purpose of the organization, and give people a legitimate chance to lead.)

Fraternities on the other hand tend to have 50-100% more orgs than the sororities & half the members on average. The majority of greek systems in tier 1 universities have 15-20+ fraternity chapters that are over 100 members, and all the financial and campus influence aspects that come with it.

A&M is a tier 1 research university. It is supposed to be a premier undergrad school with top grad programs fed by tier 2 state schools. A&M's greek system (the fraternities in particular) is significantly different than any other greek system because of the Corps. The weird thing about that one location is sororities are top tier, while fraternities are mid-2nd tier in size and nature. This is all very black and white information. I'm not sure what the issue is.

No, not really.


As an aside: Hell, I don't even know what you'd rank the schools in Louisiana Tier-wise. There's LSU, then there's the private schools, but the University of Louisiana system just is what it is.