Symbol "Quirks"

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

As for colors, we use green and white, but we don't specify a particular shade of green - although I think the white would have to be pure white. (#FFFFFF )

I find this interesting. Usually with sororities at least, it seems as though they're very specific with their colors.. Mode, azure blue, pearl white, buff..

AST is specifically emerald green and gold. I can't imagine using a brighter green, and it probably wouldn't look as nice with gold. As tld221 pointed out, I couldn't picture AEPhi using a light green, either.

What other groups aren't particular about the shades of their colors?

[CutiePie2000]

I posted this in the ancient times of 2005 and I will post it again now.
Even though I'm not an AGD, I always thought this was rather interesting.....

Alpha Gamma Delta has 2 versions of its crest or "Armorial Bearings"....

The American version:


The Canadian version:


"Alpha Gamma Delta chapters in Canada have a slight variation in the design of the Armorial Bearings. Chapters in Canada use the Coat of Arms without the helmet. Rulings of the British government do not permit anyone except the sovereign to bear the Royal Helmet".

And since Canada is still part of the British Empire, hence the different crest.

[AGD1978]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

I posted this in the ancient times of 2005 and I will post it again now.
Even though I'm not an AGD, I always thought this was rather interesting.....

Alpha Gamma Delta has 2 versions of its crest or "Armorial Bearings"....

The American version:


The Canadian version:


"Alpha Gamma Delta chapters in Canada have a slight variation in the design of the Armorial Bearings. Chapters in Canada use the Coat of Arms without the helmet. Rulings of the British government do not permit anyone except the sovereign to bear the Royal Helmet".

And since Canada is still part of the British Empire, hence the different crest.

I had totally forgotten that bit of info! I learned it when I was a pledge (does that date me?) but it had slipped my mind. Thanks for the reminder!

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I find this interesting. Usually with sororities at least, it seems as though they're very specific with their colors.. Mode, azure blue, pearl white, buff..

AST is specifically emerald green and gold. I can't imagine using a brighter green, and it probably wouldn't look as nice with gold. As tld221 pointed out, I couldn't picture AEPhi using a light green, either.

What other groups aren't particular about the shades of their colors?

I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used. Though just about everything I own that uses our colors is crayola red, a forest green, and bright yellow. So hard to find something that uses actual buff.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used. Though just about everything I own that uses our colors is crayola red, a forest green, and bright yellow. So hard to find something that uses actual buff.

Well, it's different when you're getting stuff straight from IHQ (paperwork, etc.) since we as mere mortals don't have access to the same resources. Most of the stuff I've noticed coming from IHQ does indeedy use more of a "buff" color rather than yellow. The colors on the website use buff. It's just hard to find that color in real life without it looking off.

For all three colors, I'm sure they use their own standard color codes to keep everything consistent online/in print - whether that's RGB, CYMK, or HSI I have no idea.

Another example, I've never, not once in my life, seen a buff rose in person.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by 33girl

As you can see, there are 4 little hickydoos (I don't know what else to call them) at the top of the crest and under the Phoenix

Originally Posted by aopirose

It's called a wreath or sometimes tortilly.

Actually, it's called a wreath or a torse, with each of the hickydoos being a knot or a twist. It's supposed to look like two pieces of cloth -- tradiitionally one in the main tincture (color) of the field of the shield and one in the main metal (silver [white] or gold [yellow], which are not considered colors) twisted together. It's what would have held the knight's crest on his helmet. (Note: heraldically speaking, the crest is only what is above the torse -- in ASA's case, the crown -- not the entire design.) Customarily, there are six twists, which may explain why some who don't know better get ASA's wrong.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used.(

I think of buff as a specific shade that doesn't need further description.

Meanwhile, since erroneous coats of arms have been brought up, as I mentioned in the thread on arms and other symbols, one sometimes sees this for ours:

There shouldn't be a ribbon with "PHI MU ALPHA" on top. It should look like this:

[33girl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Actually, it's called a wreath or a torse, with each of the hickydoos being a knot or a twist. It's supposed to look like two pieces of cloth -- tradiitionally one in the main tincture (color) of the field of the shield and one in the main metal (silver [white] or gold [yellow], which are not considered colors) twisted together. It's what would have held the knight's crest on his helmet. (Note: heraldically speaking, the crest is only what is above the torse -- in ASA's case, the crown -- not the entire design.) Customarily, there are six twists, which may explain why some who don't know better get ASA's wrong.

Thanks for explaining that. It always seemed like such a random thing to futz up.