Philadelphia abortion doctor accused of murdering patient, newborns

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

That would cut down on alot of undesirables breaking into my car and stealing stuff.

Because undesirables are the only people who get abortions?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Because undesirables are the only people who get abortions?

Right?

[honeychile]

I know that derailing a thread is a fine art, but people either feel that abortion is okay, not okay, or only okay in certain situations. I'll long ago quit trying to sway people to my point of view, but I have the right to have one.

The doctor in this thread didn't just perform abortions, he killed viable children after they were born. The argument is whether or not an unwanted living child should be allowed to be killed, or that a woman desiring an abortion should be recklessly allowed to die, or that body parts should be kept afterwards.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by honeychile

The doctor in this thread didn't just perform abortions, he killed viable children after they were born. The argument is whether or not an unwanted living child should be allowed to be killed, or that a woman desiring an abortion should be recklessly allowed to die, or that body parts should be kept afterwards.

Right. This guy is definitely a monster and more than likely he had a lot more victims than just those mentioned in the reports.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by agzg

Right. This guy is definitely a monster and more than likely he had a lot more victims than just those mentioned in the reports.

Agreed. And nobody has defended this guy or what he has done.

[Elephant Walk]

I said:

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

That would cut down on alot of undesirables breaking into my car and stealing stuff.

You said:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Because undesirables are the only people who get abortions?

Unless you interpret these undesirables who break into my car as rampant pregnant mothers on a spree (which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense), you didn't read my statements.

Undesirables aren't the only people who get abortions. Perfectly desirable people do as well.

However, even perfectly desirable people who are not financially able to have kids and do, cause undesirable kids....who break into my car and steal stuff. Thus, undesirable children are born. I'm not sure how this doesn't make sense to you, but somehow I'm not surprised.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Undesirables aren't the only people who get abortions. Perfectly desirable people do as well.

However, people who are not financially able to have kids and do, cause undesirable kids....who break into my car and steal stuff.

I hope you are aware that the "desirables" can (and sometimes do) have children who would also break into your car and steal stuff.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I hope you are aware that the "desirables" can (and sometimes do) have children who would also break into your car and steal stuff.

Of course - that's completely irrelevant to the issue though.

This is a total side-track to the thread (which is why I didn't pursue it further), but if you search, there are plenty of papers espousing the link between Roe v. Wade and reduced crime rates. Freakonomics also made the argument front-and-center. The issue isn't that poor people, or single parents, or any other crime correlates are the ones who have all the abortions - it's that the wide availability of relatively cheap abortions made those groups the largest increase in abortions, because they lacked any access before.

Less at-risk babies = less at-risk youth = ... and so on. The irony I alluded to earlier is that a good number who are gung-ho "SAVE THE BABIES!" wouldn't step foot in the poor part of town to cash a check and are in favor of denying poor folks health care. Why not just start earlier? [/cynicism]

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I said:


You said:


Unless you interpret these undesirables who break into my car as rampant pregnant mothers on a spree (which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense), you didn't read my statements.

Undesirables aren't the only people who get abortions. Perfectly desirable people do as well.

However, people who are not financially able to have kids and do, cause undesirable kids....who break into my car and steal stuff.

He's just doing a bad job of highlighting a link between legalizing abortion in the 70s and a decrease in the crime rate in major cities reported in "Freakonomics."

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I said:

However, even perfectly desirable people who are not financially able to have kids and do, cause undesirable kids....who break into my car and steal stuff. Thus, undesirable children are born. I'm not sure how this doesn't make sense to you, but somehow I'm not surprised.

Likewise some very financially well off people have had kids who became undesirable...
Let's start with....uuuuuuuhhh

COLUMBINE SHOOTERS?

Flipside at your argument about people not being well off...but yet producing 'desirable' role models

Benjamin Carson??


Your argument for finance and the ability to produce 'undesirable' kids is just dumb and insulting.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Because undesirables are the only people who get abortions?

Someone didn't read correctly.

It also works perfectly with my plan to rid the country of economic statists. Just give in one little bit on this issue and alot of people who will be voting for welfare checks will no longer exist.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Someone didn't read correctly.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Exactly.

The only government healthcare I would like is free abortions.

That would cut down on alot of undesirables breaking into my car and stealing stuff.

Please enlighten me on how I misinterpreted what you typed.