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Old 01-08-2011, 11:55 PM
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Plus, the gunman has listed the Communist Manifesto as his favorite book -- so I doubt he's a Tea Partier.
His favorite is all over the place, from Communist Manifesto to Mein Kamp. He also enjoy We The Living. Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler and Aynd Rand are his favorite authors all opposite of each others.
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:03 AM
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His favorite is all over the place, from Communist Manifesto to Mein Kamp. He also enjoy We The Living. Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler and Aynd Rand are his favorite authors all opposite of each others.
I'm aware. I'm trying to point out that you can pull out any one silly detail ascribe his motives to it. (And clearly I'm not doing a very good job of it, but we'll blame it on a long, hard day.)
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:11 AM
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I'm aware. I'm trying to point out that you can pull out any one silly detail ascribe his motives to it. (And clearly I'm not doing a very good job of it, but we'll blame it on a long, hard day.)
Truce.
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:15 AM
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Truce.
Truce. I'm sorry about your congresswoman. I met her several times covering the 2006 freshmen and she's fantastic.
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:19 AM
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Truce. I'm sorry about your congresswoman. I met her several times covering the 2006 freshmen and she's fantastic.
I think AZ-Alpha Xi and AzTheta are really shaken up. Maria actually knew John Roll. I'm in Phoenix, so she isn't my Congresswoman; she represents southern AZ. I have Congressman Quayle...yep VP Quayle's son! She's just one of the few female reps we have in our state and country, and she seems like a wonderful woman.
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:36 AM
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Checking in from Tucson, where the city is reeling from this morning's events. This is still a very small town in many regards, despite achieving a population of over a million in the metropolitan area. There are few people in town who've not been touched in some way by the violent, senseless shootings. Federal Court Chief Judge John Roll, a highly respected attorney and justice here, went to law school with my former husband; he and his wife sat near us at U of A basketball games. He was a devout Catholic who was on his way home from mass when he stopped in to say hello to Rep. Giffords. He was, simply, in the wrong place at the wrong time. I am heartbroken for his wife Maureen, their children, and grandchildren. Tucson has lost a truly great citizen today.

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"I'd just like to say that when you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths, about tearing down the government, the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous." -Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

In trying to ascribe a political party to this individual, we only exacerbate the anger. Watching the videos this guy made, it's pretty clear that he's not stable. When John Hinckley, Jr. shot President Reagan, it was because he was obsessed with Jodi Foster, which made NO sense at all. We can't even begin to understand someone's motivation when they would do something like this.
Yes, Dee, you are right on the mark in your assessment of the suspect. Sheriff Dupnik has been in law enforcement in Tucson for approximately 50 years (he will be 75 years old quite soon). He was, as was Mayor Walkup and almost every other official who spoke today (other than the highly trained chief of trauma surgery), close to or in tears much of the time while addressing the media. We are listening to people who've known each other and worked together for many, many years. Their hearts are broken as well.

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His favorite is all over the place, from Communist Manifesto to Mein Kamp. He also enjoy We The Living. Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler and Aynd Rand are his favorite authors all opposite of each others.
The suspect in custody is, from many accounts, suffering from serious mental issues. To ascribe political motives to such a wildly unstable mind at this time seems counter-productive. Thank you, moe.ron, for pointing out how erratic the suspect's writings are.

It was just another beautiful Saturday morning in the Sonoran desert, people were going grocery shopping at the Safeway, Gabby Giffords was hosting yet another open forum for her constituents...and what else is there to say? The suffering that is happening in so many homes and hearts this evening overwhelms me. I pray for deep peace, acceptance, and compassion.

Hold your loved ones just a little closer in your hearts.
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