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Old 10-23-2010, 09:43 AM
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There are a LOT of GLOs or groups with the same characteristics of traditional Greek groups. The latter outnumber the former.
Since he was talking about Texas, he probably meant that as a reference to the student spirit groups with characteristics similar to the NPC/NIC groups.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:00 AM
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Since he was talking about Texas, he probably meant that as a reference to the student spirit groups with characteristics similar to the NPC/NIC groups.
Spirit groups =/= GLOs

Also, I don't believe that the spirit groups outnumber the NIC/NPC organizations.

ETA: I just went back and reread the sentence and it looks like you're right. It looks like he meant "There are a lot of 1) GLOs and 2) groups that have similar characteristics," but I read it as "GLOs with similar characteristics."

My apologies, EE-BO
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:21 PM
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ETA: I just went back and reread the sentence and it looks like you're right. It looks like he meant "The are a lot of 1) GLOs and 2) groups that have similar characteristics," but I read it as "GLOs with similar characteristics."
You obviously aren't the only one who read it that way.
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Old 10-23-2010, 05:07 PM
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You obviously aren't the only one who read it that way.
Yes, because of an unfamiliarity with University of Texas culture.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:46 PM
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No, because of an awkwardly worded sentence (that followed a post about people thinking that "going Greek" was for rich white kids).
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:07 AM
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Yes, because of an unfamiliarity with University of Texas culture.


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No, because of an awkwardly worded sentence (that followed a post about people thinking that "going Greek" was for rich white kids).
Thanks, DrPhil

EW -- how the hell do you end up being an expert on every southern campus? Like, all of them?
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EW -- how the hell do you end up being an expert on every southern campus? Like, all of them?
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:34 AM
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EW -- how the hell do you end up being an expert on every southern campus? Like, all of them?
I'm not sure knowing basic features of campus society constitutes expertise.

And I have at least two or three friends at most flagship schools in the south that I go visit often..even post-grad as I am now.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:07 PM
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Spirit groups =/= GLOs

Also, I don't believe that the spirit groups outnumber the NIC/NPC organizations.

ETA: I just went back and reread the sentence and it looks like you're right. It looks like he meant "The are a lot of 1) GLOs and 2) groups that have similar characteristics," but I read it as "GLOs with similar characteristics."

My apologies, EE-BO
No worries- I am the one who should apologize. It was a poorly worded sentence (I was writing on the fly- travel day for work), and I was being hasty in my reply.

However beyond that, I should clarify an unintended insult that I did note when reading that sentence and referencing "traditional" GLOs with regard to NIC organizations.

What I intended to convey was the sense of Greek Life at Texas now versus when I was an active member. I did not mean to disparage NPHC or other organizations that have been at Texas for a very long time or that also have a storied and reputable existence. The OP was asking about "top tier" which means a handful of NIC groups- and I was going from that mindset.

I intended to convey that while Texas was already very well stocked with GLOs and other groups that mimic GLOs on a local level back when I was in school, there are even more of them today- and many of the newer (and older) ones have a more prominent presence on campus and even organized housing.

In any event, I am sorry for any inaccuracies in my remarks. When I am suggesting someone "widen the net" and be open-minded about all groups at Texas, I don't do much service to that announcement by making careless generalizations about NIC versus everyone else.

Back to the OP- something I should have mentioned last night in my post is that job networking in "top tier" fraternities is not all it is cracked up to be. Yes, there are many instances where fraternity brothers in such chapters- or any chapters for that matter- go into business together or help each other get a first job or internship with their family's firm.

But this is more about these guys who help each other out having a shared background/network that existed long before college. Their being fraternity brothers is a symptom of being part of that circle- not the root cause.

If I may ask- what are your plans at UT? Which school are you currently attending or planning to attend? If you are going to be majoring in engineering or business for example- you will find a wealth of networking opportunities right there, the right ones. In both business and engineering- there are regular social events for students, and even organizations with Greek Letter names that provide social membership with an emphasis on networking for the benefit of your career. At one point, Beta Kappa- a coed business fraternity- was even renting a very large house on campus that used to be Theta Xi and is now Acacia (next door to ADPi.)

In terms of the real world- I have never hired anyone because they were also a Beta, or also a UT grad for that matter. Their resume may get to my desk a lot faster with that connection, but it guarantees nothing. I care more about what a person has done since college- or academically during college if a recent graduate. Hiring purely on the basis of how a person strikes me during the interview and their resume has served me very well. Any hiring manager who is any good will tell you that having a completely open mind in your hiring approach is the only way to consistently bring in good people. And part of being open-minded is not caring about whether a person went to your school or was part of the "right" fraternity.

You will find this to be the case with 99% of employment opportunities out there.

If you want to join a social organization for the fun and good times- go through rush. I think you have received good advice here about "top tier" chapters at Texas since you do not appear to have current ties with members or even know which organizations are in that top tier (and no- noone will disclose them here, not even me), but they represent a very small fraction of what Greek Life has to offer at Texas- in addition to the many non-GLOs that mimic Greek Life, of which there is an unusual concentration at UT.
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