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Old 10-11-2010, 11:22 PM
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I see this more as a socio-economic issue than as a pure race issue. Yes, I know that there are correlates, but I still think "someone who is used to receiving lower pay" would have been a better argument than "blacks who are used to getting low pay."
There's no such thing as a pure race issue. Race and socioeconomic status are highly correlated.

No, someone is generic and an attempt at political correctness and exaggerated inclusion. Whites who are used to lower pay are at an advantage to Blacks who are used to lower pay. Socioeconomic status does not have an equal effect on Blacks and whites. That's why Blacks are disproportionately of the lower socioeconomic status. That's why Blacks of the higher socioeconomic status are still racially profiled in lending and so forth. That's why whites have a higher level of social mobility than Blacks. While most people who were raised poor will remain poor, whites are more likely than Blacks to move up the social ladder as they age and if they acquire human capital and social capital. White privilege is one reason for that.


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I try to be careful where I draw examples from when I'm having discussions because a large group of my friends are college+. I do have a lot of contact with "have nots," if you will, because of places I used to frequent and because of friends-of-friends. Even these folks have shared my sentiments because 1) it makes the work environment unacceptable and 2) they don't want to "help a person like that" make money.
Has their rhetoric ever translated into action? Ask them that next time. It sounds good in theory but theory without practice means nothing.

And1 let's think of minorities who have family responsibilities. If you have mouths to feed, a racist motherfucker is something you would rather deal with than having to deal with not being able to provide for your family.

And2 capitalists are capitalists. Most employees will never meet the Head Capitalist in Charge so they don't know WHO they are helping to make money. They may be blessed with a really nice manager (although there are plenty of nice racists) but unbeknownst to you the CEO is a complete racist asshole. His/Her board room antics, for example, aren't common knowledge among those on the lower end of the totem pole.
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