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Old 10-01-2010, 12:49 PM
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So it's not valid to bring up the fact that just because our (liberal) conventional wisdom is that gay people will not hit on every person of the same sex because straight people don't hit on every person of the opposite sex, other "conventional wisdoms" exist and have existed that men and women indeed can not be trusted to foster completely platonic relationships with one another.
Sure, bring it up...it just doesn't really apply to what was being discussed, that's all. Besides, I don't buy that there is a spot in the world where all men will hit on every woman they interact with and vice versa if kept completely seperate. I believe it has more to do with not letting them be alone with one another/in situations which could foster sexual interactions which doesn't even need to apply to relationships...just hormones.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:55 PM
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Sure, bring it up...it just doesn't really apply to what was being discussed, that's all. Besides, I don't buy that there is a spot in the world where all men will hit on every woman they interact with and vice versa if kept completely seperate. I believe it has more to do with not letting them be alone with one another/in situations which could foster sexual interactions which doesn't even need to apply to relationships...just hormones.
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This is what YOU believe. Which is fine. I believe it, too.

That being said, I can understand where people may (or may not) be coming from when they think that gay people are constantly hitting on everyone in their same sex because they like to have sex with people of their same sex.

It's very similar to the thought that men and women cannot have a truly platonic friendship.

People that prescribe to the When Harry Met Sally view of relationships.

I fail to see how that's not relevant to the conversation, and how the conventional wisdom in the United States even was once that men and women could not have platonic relationships (and for a long time were kept separate by society because of it).

I mean, sure, I mentioned other cultures/religions, but I also don't think that the culture/society of the US during the victorian period is the same as the culture/society of the US now.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:00 PM
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This is what YOU believe. Which is fine. I believe it, too.

That being said, I can understand where people may (or may not) be coming from when they think that gay people are constantly hitting on everyone in their same sex because they like to have sex with people of their same sex.

It's very similar to the thought that men and women cannot have a truly platonic friendship.

People that prescribe to the When Harry Met Sally view of relationships.

I fail to see how that's not relevant to the conversation, and how the conventional wisdom in the United States even was once that men and women could not have platonic relationships (and for a long time were kept separate by society because of it).

I mean, sure, I mentioned other cultures/religions, but I also don't think that the culture/society of the US during the victorian period is the same as the culture/society of the US now.
I'll put it this way...I have some very self satisfied friends and I still don't know a woman that thinks every single man that meets her is attracted to her.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:06 PM
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I'll put it this way...I have some very self satisfied friends and I still don't know a woman that thinks every single man that meets her is attracted to her.
So how is that disproving that there are people who believe that men and women cannot have platonic relationships with one another?

I mean, the concept shouldn't even be that foreign - it's actually a very common school of thought. It's the basic premise of pretty much every romantic comedy ever made.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:35 PM
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So how is that disproving that there are people who believe that men and women cannot have platonic relationships with one another?

I mean, the concept shouldn't even be that foreign - it's actually a very common school of thought. It's the basic premise of pretty much every romantic comedy ever made.
There's a whole series of articles on Slate.com about it recently. Male-female friendships are actually relatively new as far as our society goes.

Think about it this way, if someone's in a romantic (heterosexual) relationship, is it appropriate for them to share a hotel room with a friend of the opposite sex? What about the same sex?

Why do you think that 9/10 times the answer is different?
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:42 PM
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There's a whole series of articles on Slate.com about it recently. Male-female friendships are actually relatively new as far as our society goes.

Think about it this way, if someone's in a romantic (heterosexual) relationship, is it appropriate for them to share a hotel room with a friend of the opposite sex? What about the same sex?

Why do you think that 9/10 times the answer is different?
I actually was thinking of that series. It's not ended yet, right?
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:45 PM
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I actually was thinking of that series. It's not ended yet, right?
Don't think so, there's one up today I think.
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:36 AM
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I'll put it this way...I have some very self satisfied friends and I still don't know a woman that thinks every single man that meets her is attracted to her.
You never met BlueAngel.
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:45 AM
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Yinz? Yous?
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Old 10-02-2010, 03:05 AM
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Is this a *doink doink* moment?
I'm still waiting for *doink chung* to catch on.

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Yinz? Yous?
I was going to say both of those, but I didn't want agzg thinking her native tongue was acceptable.

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Old 10-02-2010, 11:30 AM
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I'm still waiting for *doink chung* to catch on.



I was going to say both of those, but I didn't want agzg thinking her native tongue was acceptable.



*side eye*
Shut your face, also, pittsburghese is not my native tongue. For that you'll have to talk to Honeychile or 33girl.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:35 PM
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Shut your face, also, pittsburghese is not my native tongue. For that you'll have to talk to Honeychile or 33girl.
FYI, I recognize pittsburghese, but only speak a few words of it. I was brought up with y'all and all y'all.
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