The Differences in Sorority & Fraternity Rush: Why?

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by 33girl

DGTITY????

Nope, but thanks for the compliment.

At most schools, the current system, yes, designed by women, treats freshmen as fungible assets. You're an extrovert with good grades who dresses well? Come on in.

But the mindset seems to be "it worked for me, why change it?"

But I've had my say. I really don't think I'm necessarily a minority of one, but probably joined by thousands who don't post here.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DGTess

But the mindset seems to be "it worked for me, why change it?"

Pot, meet kettle.

Originally Posted by DGTess

My school - 30 years ago; it's probably not permitted now - divvied up the incoming freshman women, and volunteer sorority women became pen pals for a group during the summer prior to matriculation.

Each sorority woman generally simply befriends the incoming freshmen. While it was permitted to mention sorority membership, I know my "big sis" (yes, that's what they were called) simply mentioned that she was a Delta Gamma. She went on to answer questions I had about school, what to expect, what the routine would be like for the first few weeks (we didn't have a formal orientation, either), etc.

That way, when I got to school, I had at least one friendly face.

And jeepers, what a coincidence, you joined Delta Gamma. I'm sure there were women who felt pressured to not disappoint the "one friendly face" they'd met, women who didn't click with the sister who was writing them (and dismissed the whole Greek system because of it) and women who thought this assured them a bid and were disappointed.

But hey, it worked for you, why change it.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DGTess

But I've had my say. I really don't think I'm necessarily a minority of one, but probably joined by thousands who don't post here.

And tens of thousands who disagree?

I really don't know anything about the back and forth, but claiming the support of invisible others (whether supporters in PMs or thousands who don't post) doesn't mean jack.

GC's not a controlled sample, though I'd guess it's probably unintentionally representative, at least when it comes to younger alums and current members. Regardless of whether you're a minority of "one" or "one percent" you're not exactly vindicated by your silent thousands.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

GC's not a controlled sample, though I'd guess it's probably unintentionally representative, at least when it comes to younger alums and current members. Regardless of whether you're a minority of "one" or "one percent" you're not exactly vindicated by your silent thousands.

Never said I was. I have repeatedly stated I don't like this system; I'd prefer no silence rules, deferred rush, no requirement to visit all houses, particularly in a compressed time frame, and no bid-matching. I'd allow a woman to receive as many bids as she can, and then make the choice.

I understand how - and why - it works as it does, but I don't have to like it, nor think it's the best system. I believe there are thousands of others who agree with me, yes, but it doesn't take a CMU grad to understand I'm in the minority. It no more makes me and those others (whether 1 or 1000 or 10000 or whatever - that was obviously a figure of speech) right than it makes the current system right.

And I'm obviously no more likely to convince a proponent of the big rush systems than someone is to convince me every house has to rush the same.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Never said I was. I have repeatedly stated I don't like this system; I'd prefer no silence rules, deferred rush, no requirement to visit all houses, particularly in a compressed time frame, and no bid-matching. I'd allow a woman to receive as many bids as she can, and then make the choice.

I understand how - and why - it works as it does, but I don't have to like it, nor think it's the best system. I believe there are thousands of others who agree with me, yes, but it doesn't take a CMU grad to understand I'm in the minority. It no more makes me and those others (whether 1 or 1000 or 10000 or whatever - that was obviously a figure of speech) right than it makes the current system right.

And I'm obviously no more likely to convince a proponent of the big rush systems than someone is to convince me every house has to rush the same.

How would you solve the problems of bid promising and numbers as well as dirty rushing in general? Would continue to restrict chapters to a quota? If so, how would you deal with PNMs who go bidless after only considering the "top" houses?

It's great to have an idea of what you don't like, silence, bid matching, etc., but how do you solve the problems that those things were designed to address?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

How would you solve the problems of bid promising and numbers as well as dirty rushing in general? Would continue to restrict chapters to a quota? If so, how would you deal with PNMs who go bidless after only considering the "top" houses?

It's great to have an idea of what you don't like, silence, bid matching, etc., but how do you solve the problems that those things were designed to address?

Who cares about those people?! If you don't have five bids to choose from, you obviously don't deserve to go greek, and if you don't have a hundred girls clamoring to join your chapter, get your group off campus!

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by DGTess

But I've had my say. I really don't think I'm necessarily a minority of one, but probably joined by thousands who don't post here.

If you weren't in the minority, we wouldn't have the system we do.