Israeli soldier post pics of herself and Palestinian prisoners on where? FACEBOOK

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Dear lord why did you screw with the font.

Originally Posted by Chocoholic

Agreed, but I've never considered the beheading of American prisoners and putting these videos on Arab television/YouTube, respectful. That "comparison" I'll never be able to erase from my memory; if you saw one, you might understand.

Wow. Way to build that strawman and knock it right down.
In this paragraph you have assumed that a)someone might consider those videos respectful, b) it's natural to compare that to this situation, c) that I've never viewed those videos and d) that if I did see those videos, I'd agree with you. Sorry. You're wrong on all 4 counts.

Furthermore, I've stated the IDF soldier's actions were stupid. The IDF condemned her actions, launched an investigation and provided all the photos as part of that investigation, which is still ongoing.

Good we're on the same page here.

Your argument is less than compelling considering; suicide bombings, human shields, stoning/honor killings, mothers' strapping bombs on their babies, martyrdom and martyrdom reparations. I'm not saying there aren't peaceful Muslims, because there certainly are. I'm saying some of the tenets and specious doctrine embraced/interpreted as fundamentals of Islam are heinous and most disturbing.

Suicide bombings - specifically prohibited by Islam, politically motivated with religion mostly serving as the rallying cry.
Human Shields - Military/political tactic - used by non-Muslims
Stoning/Honor Killings - Something that is in the Hebrew/Christian scriptures too (and was done, frequently), currently in place and enforced more by cultural forces than purely religious ones. That is, not ever Muslim country or family would even consider the idea, but residents of and immigrants from certain countries see it as normal. It was happening there before Islam got there.
"Mother's strapping bombs on their babies" - this isn't a few radicals? Really?

You're looking at things that represent extremists and then claiming that they're not extreme. Islam isn't why people are bombing buses in Israel. Those people see it as their only method of fighting since they don't have armies. They're wrong to say the very least but that's what's in their head. Individuals might be religiously motivated but that doesn't make them representatives of Islam any more than abortion doctor killers are representative of Christianity.

This is not anomalous behavior exclusive to a few Islamic radicals. It's found in the government, ruling powers, kingdoms of some Islamic/Arab countries.

Some.. So SOME radicals
Out of over 1 billion Muslims, you don't think that this is a small percentage?

I trust you heard of Wahhabism which is the dominant sect in Saudi Arabia? Wahhabism is a literal interpretation of the Quran, its Creed provides for a military conscription for war against the infidel.

And just like a literal interpretation of the Bible is ineffective and would allow you to own slaves, forbid you from wearing mixed fabrics, stone women for adultery if she was raped in a city and didn't cry out loud enough (but not in the country where they couldn't hear her), and tell you the Earth was only several thousand years old, a literal interpretation of the Koran is not particularly a valid one.

Wahhabism is fairly extreme as far as beliefs go, and one that persecutes women, for example. However, Saudi Arabia doesn't have some of the strife of other countries because of the wealth and culture of the country itself- they will always have religious "tourism" money even if the oil runs out - not because of its brand of Islam.

This is why Osama bin Ladin has been popular; having remained protected and elusive from capture. And while the Saudi Government condemned bin Laden, they never condemned his message - until that happens, expect the brutality to continue unabated.

Bin Ladin is actually pissed off at the Saudis for allowing Americans in. There's a reason he's not living there despite that being his country of origin. So you think that if the Saudi government specifically condemned his "message" we'd capture him tomorrow?

Political Islam and/or Islamic puritanism; is the God given authority which the Taliban (Hamas, al Qaeda, Hezbollah et al) uses as a license to kill in the name of allah. Whether infidel, Shi'as or peaceful, moderate/liberal Muslims, they've all been exposed to this Islamic Muharib (taking a human life to prevent the corruption of the faith). Just ask the Islamic Studies Professor whose house was bombed for befriending "infidels".

Evil people use religion, like they use any belief system, to justify their acts and to try to get others to follow them. Sometimes those evil people are crazy and sometimes they're intentionally manipulative. There is a huge history of Christian aggression based on then killing the pagans/infidels/heathens/etc. There is biblical documentation of the Hebrews killing tribes and cities of people because God told them to.

People kill "in the name" of a lot of things.

And find an unbiased source for a video next time if you want me to watch it.

Israel is also the Holy Land to Christians who believe that Jesus lived and walked there. I've never heard a Christian say, we're going to drive the Jews into the sea, or Death to the Jews! No, they co-exist peacefully.

Right, if we're following my point that some Christians only support Israel so they can make Jesus come again, they wouldn't want to kill the Jews, they just want the Jews to kill the Muslims and rebuild the Temple so big JC will come back and send the Jews to hell for not being Christians.

Also, you don't think there are Palestinian Christians who have said that? Or are you conflating Arabs and Muslims again? Perhaps other Christians haven't said that in Israel because they aren't the ones being killed in return.

(Also, pretty much every "the Jews run Hollywood/Washington/the world" anti-Semitic rambling from the US has been said by a Christian IME)

Ok, I can put you down for how many F-16's?? Israel has over 300, surely you'll take at least 2.

Bad logic. If my tax money bought those 300 planes over there, we could easily buy them over here instead.

That's some leap! I said these bi-lateral contracts keep Americans employed and in this economy most would agree, that's a good thing. You might be surprised to learn that the US is using Israeli arms in Iraq too - I recall one is a mortar launcher. Both countries pursue interests in several joint projects.

Assuming that those companies would go out of business because we stopped giving Israel aid is some leap. Your claim was that we're giving Israel money and they're just spending it on American things. That's not a good reason to keep giving it to them. There probably are good reasons to give it to them, but you provided a very bad one.

I'm not surprised at all, I just don't care. Why wouldn't we buy arms from someone else if they made good ones?

And the crazies might take that, as tacit approval...

The "crazies" will twist whatever you do into supporting their worldview. So you do the right thing no matter what (build Park51 in NYC, treat all prisoners with respect, treat all humans with respect, and so on) and then you haven't let terrorism compromise your values. Which means you win.