Should a conviction still be allowed to hold ex-felons back?

[33girl]

IMO the women who don't take any responsibility for their bodies and contraception ARE having abortions for shits and giggles. I hope they are mythical, but I'm quite afraid they're not.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

IMO the women who don't take any responsibility for their bodies and contraception ARE having abortions for shits and giggles. I hope they are mythical, but I'm quite afraid they're not.

Isn't having an abortion taking responsibility? Have you ever met anyone who had one for fun?

It's kind of like the mythical welfare "queens" popping out 12 babies to by a Cadillac. Or all those women who get pregnant to trap a man. There are people who are not as responsible as you would like them to be, or even with a warped view of the world, but most of these images are urban legends with very few instances of actual truth mixed in.

And if someone believes that an abortion is not killing a baby, the only limitations on having them would be financial cost and their own body's health and safety. There's no moral problem with having them every month, it's just impractical and unhealthy. (And probably impossible.)

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Isn't having an abortion taking responsibility? Have you ever met anyone who had one for fun?

It's kind of like the mythical welfare "queens" popping out 12 babies to by a Cadillac. Or all those women who get pregnant to trap a man. There are people who are not as responsible as you would like them to be, or even with a warped view of the world, but most of these images are urban legends with very few instances of actual truth mixed in.

And if someone believes that an abortion is not killing a baby, the only limitations on having them would be financial cost and their own body's health and safety. There's no moral problem with having them every month, it's just impractical and unhealthy. (And probably impossible.)

Like I said, I hope these ARE mythical. But some people just have a "it won't happen to me" outlook on life and act with very little concern for themselves or others.

We're never going to agree on this so I'll just chime in and say I hate McMansions also.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Like I said, I hope these ARE mythical. But some people just have a "it won't happen to me" outlook on life and act with very little concern for themselves or others.

We're never going to agree on this so I'll just chime in and say I hate McMansions also.

LOL it's ok. I just think it's hypocritical to judge some people for having a medical procedure and not others. (As if you think it's murder, or at least morally fraught, then you would judge all)

I have no opinion on McMansions but I hate new housing developments because they don't have enough trees.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

LOL it's ok. I just think it's hypocritical to judge some people for having a medical procedure and not others. (As if you think it's murder, or at least morally fraught, then you would judge all)

My main problem is with the irresponsibilty inherent in it. I guess I should have used moviemakers who irresponsibly glorify the Old South as an example instead (even if I never saw the movie).

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

My main problem is with the irresponsibilty inherent in it. I guess I should have used moviemakers who irresponsibly glorify the Old South as an example instead (even if I never saw the movie).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

My main problem is with the irresponsibilty inherent in it. I guess I should have used moviemakers who irresponsibly glorify the Old South as an example instead (even if I never saw the movie).

Originally Posted by Drolefille

LOL. LOL.

I'm glad to see so many on Team Hate McMansions.

Drolefille, I know some newer housing developments that you would absolutely love. These areas pride themselves with having large properties with lots of trees including smaller forests and woodlands (woods?). The properties are well monitored to make sure the animals don't get out of hand. This goes well for those who like nature and don't completely want to remove animals from human existences. I grew up around tons of trees...TONS of trees...and I wouldn't live in a neighborhood without them.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. LOL.

I'm glad to see so many on Team Hate McMansions.

Drolefille, I know some newer housing developments that you would absolutely love. These areas pride themselves with having large properties with lots of trees including smaller forests and woodlands (woods?). The properties are well monitored to make sure the animals don't get out of hand. This goes well for those who like nature and don't completely want to remove animals from human existences. I grew up around tons of trees...TONS of trees...and I wouldn't live in a neighborhood without them.

Oh that sounds amazing! I grew up in a relatively old neighborhood for my city, and going to school took us through even more established ones. I love that there are trees that line the streets and turn pretty colors in the fall. And I also grew up by a park and would climb the evergreens here all the time and make forts in them in the winter.

Trees are win. Unfortunately living on the prairie or practically in a cornfield, new developments around here are pretty much treeless.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Like I said, I hope these ARE mythical. But some people just have a "it won't happen to me" outlook on life and act with very little concern for themselves or others.

We're never going to agree on this so I'll just chime in and say I hate McMansions also.

I understand what you mean. I know someone who's had four abortions