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[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

I thought the only office for which one must be a natural born citizen in order to run for and hold was the President.

It's the only one of the federal ones that has that requirement. I don't know if some states have similar requirements for any state offices or not.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's the only one of the federal ones that has that requirement. I don't know if some states have similar requirements for any state offices or not.

There's a lot of un-elected high level positions that require you to be a natural born citizen, i.e SECDEF.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

There's a lot of un-elected high level positions that require you to be a natural born citizen, i.e SECDEF.

Right, but your OP was that elected officials should prove it... which I just don't see much of a point in if you're only talking about whether or not they were born here or were naturalized. Other eligibility requirements, though, I totally agree with.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

Right, but your OP was that elected officials should prove it... which I just don't see much of a point in if you're only talking about whether or not they were born here or were naturalized. Other eligibility requirements, though, I totally agree with.

Everything and the kitchen sink should be verified. EVERYTHING.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

There's a lot of un-elected high level positions that require you to be a natural born citizen, i.e SECDEF.

I was only referring to elected ones. States don't have any say over the other positions.

However can you provide a citation for that? My understanding is that if someone in the line of succession is ineligible they're just skipped.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I was only referring to elected ones. States don't have any say over the other positions.

However can you provide a citation for that? My understanding is that if someone in the line of succession is ineligible they're just skipped.

I'll have to review my U.S. Constitution Iphone app because you can be speaker of the house and not be a U.S, born citizen, right?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'll have to review my U.S. Constitution Iphone app because you can be speaker of the house and not be a U.S, born citizen, right?

AFAIK. You only have to be a member of the House which requires 7 years of citizenship. Oh and if you're a confederate rebel you can't serve

Speakers are just elected by the majority.

Not that the line of succession has ever been tested further down than the VP anyway, so it's all theoretical.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

AFAIK. You only have to be a member of the House which requires 7 years of citizenship. Oh and if you're a confederate rebel you can't serve

Speakers are just elected by the majority.

Not that the line of succession has ever been tested further down than the VP anyway, so it's all theoretical.

How do you prove rebelship?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

How do you prove rebelship?

Why it's in that pesky 14th amendment. It kept people who had declared themselves members of the confederacy from later regaining office.

. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

So even though there was a blanket pardon, they couldn't serve in office unless officially forgiven by congress. (And eventually there was a blanket forgiveness.)