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					Originally Posted by starang21  both of those points are irrelevant.  83 percent of illegal aliens are hispanic.  the hispanic population has the highest percentage of illegal aliens.  most people who are suspected of being illegal will be hispanic.  
 duh.
 |  Cool, let's make a law targeting Hispanics!
 
Oh yeah..Arizona is doing that.
 
Don't get me wrong...I am all for legislation that would make it difficult for people that are considered illegal to be in this country, however, as it stands, Arizona's laws and everything else that has gone down there in the past year is just wrong on so many levels and I think now we are finding out exactly what kind of people we are working with that runs their government.
		 
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				08-03-2010, 12:23 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  Cool, let's make a law targeting Hispanics!
 Oh yeah..Arizona is doing that.
 |  LOL.  not necessarily.
		 
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				08-03-2010, 12:25 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by starang21  LOL.  not necessarily. |  All you're doing is saying "Nuh uh" and "Not necessarily" and "you don't know that for sure."
 
So what are they doing?
		 
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				08-03-2010, 12:27 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Drolefille  All you're doing is saying "Nuh uh" and "Not necessarily" and "you don't know that for sure."
 So what are they doing?
 |  they're writing a law targeting illegal aliens. 
 
i figure that much is obvious.
		 
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				08-03-2010, 12:28 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by starang21  they're writing a law targeting illegal aliens. 
 i figure that much is obvious.
 |  So you know their intent? 
 
(Using aliens is an example of dehumanizing, since you were struggling with the concept earlier.)
		 
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					Originally Posted by Drolefille  So you know their intent? 
 (Using aliens is an example of dehumanizing, since you were struggling with the concept earlier.)
 |  no.  i read the law.  
 
aliens is the correct term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/alien 
1.  a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization
		 
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				08-03-2010, 12:35 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by starang21   |  So you don't know their intent either? 
 
And using a "correct term" doesn't make it an "appropriate term."
 
Dictionaries define a lot of things.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Drolefille  Using aliens is an example of dehumanizing |  I use "undocumented residents."  The term "illegal alien" is uncouth.
		 
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					Originally Posted by preciousjeni  I use "undocumented residents."  The term "illegal alien" is uncouth. |  I tend to fall on illegal immigrants as it is as close to neutral as I can use without typically getting harassed for *~*ignoring*~* that they're here illegally.
		 
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					Originally Posted by starang21  they're writing a law targeting illegal aliens who also happen to be Hispanics who, as I just said make up a majority of the population of Arizona, a border state. 
 i figure that much is obvious.
 |  There...fixed that for you.
 
Just an oddball question...if they are illegal and undocumented, how do we know then that they make up a high amount of the population?
		 
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					Originally Posted by DaemonSeid  There...fixed that for you.
 Just an oddball question...if they are illegal and undocumented, how do we know then that they make up a high amount of the population?
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					Originally Posted by starang21   |  Let me try this again, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, without me having to screw around with statistics and websites, can you answer the question?
		 
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