Lavalier?

[SigmaNuHM659]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I'm going to be frank and give you my thoughts on it: You don't have a connection to each other's fraternity or sorority. You each have a connection to your own fraternity or sorority. You have a connection to each other, and you have a connection (friendship) with members of each other's org, but unless you are a chapter sweetheart, you do not have a connection to Sigma Nu. (I'll be really frank and say it seems very odd to me to see someone use letters of an org they're not a member of in their screen name. Sorry.)

Pinning and lavaliering do not create a connection with a boyfriend's fraternity. It's simply a traditional way of indicating the seriousness of a relationship.

Full disclosure: My thoughts may be influenced by the fact that my fraternity does not allow non-members to wear our letters -- not even in the form of a lavalier.

And I still can't imagine a guy actually wearing a lavalier.

Don't speak for my chapter and say that she cannot have a connection to Sigma Nu. Also, other members of my chapter have been lavaliered and do wear their girlfriend's/ fiancé's/ wive's letters around their neck with pride. If your aren't a Sigma Nu, don't speak for us. I find it odd that someone whose fraternity has no traditions or customs for lavaliering can claim to know so much and even ridicule others about it.

I see nothing wrong with her using Sigma Nu in her screen name. She isn't claiming to be one. It is merely a gesture of affection and support.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by SigmaNuHM659

Don't speak for my chapter and say that she cannot have a connection to Sigma Nu. Also, other members of my chapter have been lavaliered and do wear their girlfriend's/ fiancé's/ wive's letters around their neck with pride. If your aren't a Sigma Nu, don't speak for us. I find it odd that someone whose fraternity has no traditions or customs for lavaliering can claim to know so much and even ridicule others about it.

I see nothing wrong with her using Sigma Nu in her screen name. She isn't claiming to be one. It is merely a gesture of affection and support.

I fail to see where he attempted to speak for Sigma Nu here (that would be saaying "Sigma Nu does not allow...").

LOL @ the douchebagerry going on in this post. It's the interwebz. Serious business.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by SigmaNuHM659

Don't speak for my chapter and say that she cannot have a connection to Sigma Nu. Also, other members of my chapter have been lavaliered and do wear their girlfriend's/ fiancé's/ wive's letters around their neck with pride. If your aren't a Sigma Nu, don't speak for us. I find it odd that someone whose fraternity has no traditions or customs for lavaliering can claim to know so much and even ridicule others about it.

I see nothing wrong with her using Sigma Nu in her screen name. She isn't claiming to be one. It is merely a gesture of affection and support.

How did he ridicule lavaliers? Because he doesn't agree with them? She asked for an opinion and he gave it. And she doesn't have a connection to Sigma Nu. She has a connection to A Sigma Nu.

[SigmaNuHM659]

Fair enough. My apologies.

[MysticCat]

Sorry I missed your posts earlier. To clarify:

I am not attempting to speak for Sigma Nu. I'm just not familiar with any fraternity tradition where being lavaliered creates a connection with the fraternity, as opposed to symbolizing a connection with the members of the fraternity, and I have a fair degree of familiarity with the traditions of fraternities outside my own. But I'll gladly be educated otherwise.

I didn't ridicule anyone. Saying that I find it odd to include letters of an organization of which one is not a member in a screen name, and saying that I find it hard to imagine guys wearing lavaliers does not constitute ridiculing. Although to be honest, where I live, a guy wearing a lavalier stands a decent chance of being ridiculed. But not by me.

I never said my fraternity has no tradition of lavaliering. We did have a tradition of it, but we decided a few years back, as a fraternity, to end that tradition, at least with lavaliers of our letters.

BTW, since you're both in Flint, would I be correct in assuming you're her boyfriend?

[ΘΦΑlovesΣΝ]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Sorry I missed your posts earlier. To clarify:

I am not attempting to speak for Sigma Nu. I'm just not familiar with any fraternity tradition where being lavaliered creates a connection with the fraternity, as opposed to symbolizing a connection with the members of the fraternity, and I have a fair degree of familiarity with the traditions of fraternities outside my own. But I'll gladly be educated otherwise.

I didn't ridicule anyone. Saying that I find it odd to include letters of an organization of which one is not a member in a screen name, and saying that I find it hard to imagine guys wearing lavaliers does not constitute ridiculing. Although to be honest, where I live, a guy wearing a lavalier stands a decent chance of being ridiculed. But not by me.

I never said my fraternity has no tradition of lavaliering. We did have a tradition of it, but we decided a few years back, as a fraternity, to end that tradition, at least with lavaliers of our letters.

BTW, since you're both in Flint, would I be correct in assuming you're her boyfriend?

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, he is my boyfriend. I think this conversation just went too far on an incorrect assumption; when I said that I wanted to see if there was a way for us to "show our connection to the other's fraternity/sorority", I merely meant that whatever we got would show our connection to each other, and, through that, our connection to their org. Not a direct connection. Also, since then, I have learned that 1. I am not able to give him anything with my letters on it (except the written-out words on an event T-shirt or something), so I can't lavalier him anyway, and 2. I am not "connected" to Sigma Nu or allowed to know any of their secrets until I am married to him. However, he just lavaliered me 4 days ago, so I guess I'm on that route.

As for the said ridiculing, I think it was just his overreaction to the way you said those things. He apologized.

Thanks for your thoughts and input. Seeing that you've made quite a lot of posts here on GC, I assume you must have a lot of experience and knowledge of Greek Life. Please be patient with those of us who have less.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by ΘΦΑlovesΣΝ

I have learned that 1. I am not able to give him anything with my letters on it (except the written-out words on an event T-shirt or something), so I can't lavalier him anyway, and 2. I am not "connected" to Sigma Nu or allowed to know any of their secrets until I am married to him. However, he just lavaliered me 4 days ago, so I guess I'm on that route.

I am not a Sigma Nu, but I would guess that you are not suppose to know any of their secrets even after y'all are married.