Sorority Expansion

[33girl]

Originally Posted by agzg

C. NPC is not forcing you to only have 3 sororities on campus, they're only allowing 3 NPC chapters. They are also not forcing you to have 70+ members per chapter - total is usually decided on the campus level.

This. As someone who would also rather see 6 chapters of 40 than 3 chapters of 70, I'm with PKTsaluki on that score. The thing is, the sororities HAVE TO VOTE TO DECREASE TOTAL. If their nationals aren't letting them do that (and this does happen occasionally) that isn't Panhellenic's fault. If there are sororities with big houses to maintain who don't want to lower total that also isn't Panhellenic's fault.

I know what vp is saying about having sororities that aren't NPC, but what happens in this situation is the "service" or "professional" sorority turns into a social sorority that occasionally does service and gets around the alcohol rules of NPCs. Then Panhel gets pissed and the bad blood gets even worse. It's not a good idea to promote establishment of something other than a social group if what people truly want is a social group.

Closed colony thread that LaneSig referenced:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=102389

I won't say that just because a colony fails doesn't mean there is no room for a new Greek group. That is nothing against the above group, just a general statement. Sometimes the "fit" that seemed great to Panhel members doesn't come across to the campus at large. It happens.

And regardless of whether the school is "toxic" it was very unprofessional of the NPC rep to put it that way. "The system has some challenges it needs to address" would have been a little better.

My school is finally getting its head out of its ass and inviting back some of the fraternity chapters that were closed for bogus reasons. However, there's NO WAY IN HELL I think they're ready for any of the sororities to come back. Different things are different.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And regardless of whether the school is "toxic" it was very unprofessional of the NPC rep to put it that way. "The system has some challenges it needs to address" would have been a little better.

My school is finally getting its head out of its ass and inviting back some of the fraternity chapters that were closed for bogus reasons. However, there's NO WAY IN HELL I think they're ready for any of the sororities to come back. Different things are different.

We don't know what the NPC rep said, we know what a fraternity guy heard from a sorority member. If it had been for public consumption it might have been worded differently.

It's certainly possible that there could be a new chapter, but honestly, chapters of 70 are really reasonable IMO. Those are pledge classes of about 20 accounting for a bit of loss/graduation etc. That means about 60 people who complete rush each year. I'm not really seeing a desperate need for expansion there.

ETA: Not that there couldn't be an interest for a non-NPC group, but I agree that it shouldn't just be an attempt to dodge NPC rules, but an actual desire for a MCGLO, a service GLO, etc.

[33girl]

FWIW I don't think 70 is an out of the question size, I just personally would rather have more options. If that means the chapters are smaller, so be it. What I'm trying to put across to Boy Who Wants More Chicks is that this isn't something that big, bad NPC is doing - or every school across the country would have the same magic number for total.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

FWIW I don't think 70 is an out of the question size, I just personally would rather have more options. If that means the chapters are smaller, so be it. What I'm trying to put across to Boy Who Wants More Chicks is that this isn't something that big, bad NPC is doing - or every school across the country would have the same magic number for total.

Oh yeah, I follow. And it's possible that a non-NPC option is actually a pretty good one. But SIUC (greek system included) has bigger issues IMO.