Everything Geek goes here...

DaemonSeid · #1 06-29-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

But Tony is in an iron suit. I mean, I could beat the Hulk if I had the same iron suit. The latest Iron Man movie proved that anyone who knows how to operate that suit can do a lot of damage. I just can't see how anyone could think a normal human being with martial arts training can beat a monster than can smash cars together. C'mon, get real. Daemon, I don't know that much about comics like you do, but let's use common sense, here. There's no way Batman could beat The Hulk.

You didn't finish reading my post CG...I said HULK would win.

And Stark has beaten Hulk in a Hulkbuster (thus the purpose for having a Hulkbuster suit) ....you saying you don't know much about comics just states that you didn't see that...and again...you cannot base what you know about comics characters based upon movies that are what?....based on comics characters....

cheerfulgreek · #2 06-29-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You didn't finish reading my post CG...I said HULK would win.

And Stark has beaten Hulk in a Hulkbuster (thus the purpose for having a Hulkbuster suit) ....you saying you don't know much about comics just states that you didn't see that...and again...you cannot base what you know about comics characters based upon movies that are what?....based on comics characters....

Oh, well I didn't see that. Well, it's not based on the movie, it's just that Batman is just a human being, nothing more. So, I was just using common sense. Plus, he is so lame, to me. I don't know why so many people like him.

DaemonSeid · #3 06-29-2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Oh, well I didn't see that. Well, it's not based on the movie, it's just that Batman is just a human being, nothing more. So, I was just using common sense. Plus, he is so lame, to me. I don't know why so many people like him.

Nah uh you can't back out on that one....each example you used was based on the movie characteristics which is faulty at best especially knowing how many changes are made to suit the movie audience...when you go to do these one on ones you have to be at least familiar with their history including any crossovers that occurred...

cheerfulgreek · #4 06-29-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Nah uh you can't back out on that one....each example you used was based on the movie characteristics which is faulty at best especially knowing how many changes are made to suit the movie audience...when you go to do these one on ones you have to be at least familiar with their history including any crossovers that occurred...

Huh? Daemon, I wasn't trying to back out. Seriously. I was just comparing the two based on what they have to fight with, not really on the movie. Batman is just a human being, and the movie and comics and everyone else makes him out to be this "most powerful super guy" who is only a normal human being. If I was an expert shooter and I shot Batman in the mouth, he would be history. He's only protected by armor, but his mouth is still exposed. If I took a shot at Spiderman, he would be hard to hit.

DaemonSeid · #5 06-29-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Huh? Daemon, I wasn't trying to back out. Seriously. I was just comparing the two based on what they have to fight with, not really on the movie. Batman is just a human being, and the movie and comics and everyone else makes him out to be this "most powerful super guy" who is only a normal human being. If I was an expert shooter and I shot Batman in the mouth, he would be history. He's only protected by armor, but his mouth is still exposed. If I took a shot at Spiderman, he would be hard to hit.

Just like if I had a gun with Kryptonite bullets Superman would have long since been dead....read Drole's explanation and add to it...that is the point of comics....is that you have ordinary people do the extraordinary.

Which is why if you think about it...no one would really do these things for real...hence the movie Kick Ass

cheerfulgreek · #6 06-29-2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Just like if I had a gun with Kryptonite bullets Superman would have long since been dead....read Drole's explanation and add to it...that is the point of comics....is that you have ordinary people do the extraordinary.

Which is why if you think about it...no one would really do these things for real...hence the movie Kick Ass

Of course they wouldn't, it's just that it doesn't take much to get rid of Batman. That's all I'm saying. Kick Ass is what Batman would be like IRL. lol

DaemonSeid · #7 06-29-2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Of course they wouldn't, it's just that it doesn't take much to get rid of Batman. That's all I'm saying. Kick Ass is what Batman would be like IRL. lol

That's not accurate at all...Kick Ass and Batman are nowhere near alike.

You cannot put those two in the same ballpark

Kick Ass is just an average joe with no resources at all

Drolefille · #8 06-29-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Oh, well I didn't see that. Well, it's not based on the movie, it's just that Batman is just a human being, nothing more. So, I was just using common sense. Plus, he is so lame, to me. I don't know why so many people like him.

Batman is popular BECAUSE he's human. He fights and beats people with super-human powers (no, not in the new movies, those are intentionally more realist) and it makes you believe that you could do it too. It's why Superman is so fundamentally boring. He's good and perfect and unbeatable.

DaemonSeid · #9 06-29-2010, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Batman is popular BECAUSE he's human. He fights and beats people with super-human powers (no, not in the new movies, those are intentionally more realist) and it makes you believe that you could do it too. It's why Superman is so fundamentally boring. He's good and perfect and unbeatable.

Which is why I was so glad that DC toned him down...Superman was just unbeatable but when they retconned him back in the late 80s, he was getting his butt whupped every other week...

What was really cool was the idea that DC used with a storyline this past year when they finally brought back 100K of his kin and put them on a planet called....wait for it.........New Krypton!

cheerfulgreek · #10 06-29-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille

and it makes you believe that you could do it too. .

Not really.

Drolefille · #11 06-29-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Huh? Daemon, I wasn't trying to back out. Seriously. I was just comparing the two based on what they have to fight with, not really on the movie. Batman is just a human being, and the movie and comics and everyone else makes him out to be this "most powerful super guy" who is only a normal human being. If I was an expert shooter and I shot Batman in the mouth, he would be history. He's only protected by armor, but his mouth is still exposed. If I took a shot at Spiderman, he would be hard to hit.

Batman doesn't get hit when you shoot at him. Neither does Spiderman. That's the point. Batman would have already known you were there, set up a decoy and taken you out from behind. Spidey would have felt the danger and swung away while webbing you. You can't use "Earth" logic when in the comic-book world. Doesn't work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Not really.

Not my fault you didn't love superheros as a kid and have an active imagination.

I, on the other hand, was alternately Robin/Batgirl/ an X-man/ etc.

DaemonSeid · #12 06-29-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Batman doesn't get hit when you shoot at him. Neither does Spiderman. That's the point. Batman would have already known you were there, set up a decoy and taken you out from behind. Spidey would have felt the danger and swung away while webbing you. You can't use "Earth" logic when in the comic-book world. Doesn't work.

^^^This