After Several Years: What Do You Think of the New Release Figures?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Splash

If they weren't using RFM they would get to invite back a certain number of girls. That number minus the girls they would cut if they did use RFM are the ones who get the second chance, not girls that would be cut after first round without RFM.

So only some people get should second chances? Why shouldn't those people who get cut after the first round w/o RFM get second chances? Why are the people who get cut with RFM more deserving than the ones who get cut without it?

They will still have the same number of girls in the pledge class. I have never denied that. They likely will not have the EXACT SAME pledge class. How similar (whether it is identical or far different) probably depends on the school a lot and other factors. This whole example is hypothetical is it not? The only absolute I am saying is that there will definitinely be situations where a girl normally cut after first round due to RFM would end up with a bid to that sorority.

Sure, but they're rare. There would be more situations where a girl wouldn't get a bid at all. Which is preferable?

As for the PNM getting a bid to another sorority, she's not getting her first choice which she might have gotten.

Happens to a lot of people. If most are happy, why is that considered something 'bad'?

I definitely wasn't Susie seeing that I got my first choice. I do know people that I feel bad for but I'm not thinking of anyone in particular at the moment. How exactly am I incapable of looking at the Greek system on my or any campus? Please be specific, I'd like to know. And please don't speak for the entire Greek community by saying that her changing their mind doesn't matter. You and a lot of this board agree but I am part of the Greek community and I think it matters. Besides it's ironic that everyone on this board is all for the sorority being able to change the mind of the PNM and win her over but not the other way around. I know how recruitment works but that's not mutual.

Because you are focused on the rare individual instead of the community as a whole. The PNMs don't know why they're cut, so they don't know if they had a "chance" or not. This maximizes every PNM's options, leads to more PNMs getting bids and helps every chapter reach quota. It's not a perfect system, but what is?

It's not about changing the sorority's mind because odds are the sorority doesn't hate her, they just like X number of people better, and out of that X only Y will come to pref and then 1/2Y (or 1/3Y or whatever) will get bids. If Suzie wants to be in that number she's the same chance as everyone else (she can't control what chapters pre-make bid lists etc.). Being the applicant to something, whether a sorority, a job, or a school means that you're not the one in control of the system. If a job invites the top 3 candidates for interview, someone's always going to be number 4.

And what is wrong with what I said that you bolded? You are dead set in thinking that I am a troll yet you continue to give me thought out responses.

It's childish.