Discipline: Spanking

[DrPhil]

Yeah, I have disdain for parents whose kids have a habit of acting out in public and who have a habit of having to leave public places. They need to fix that. I'm only talking about patterns of behavior. You said your cousin's child is annoying. That sounds like a pattern of behavior and not just a normal child who challenges boundaries sometimes.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yeah, I have disdain for parents whose kids have a habit of acting out in public and who have a habit of having to leave public places. They need to fix that. I'm only talking about patterns of behavior. You said your cousin's child is annoying. That sounds like a pattern of behavior and not just a normal child who challenges boundaries sometimes.

Well, as I clarified, the "child experts" can't "fix" her either. She's a kid, not a toy, computer game, or hairdo.

Parenting isn't a game with scorecards, and looking down upon others doesn't mean one is right. It means one has a personal opinion. My personal opinion is that parents who are loving, consistent, and willing to be creative in their methods of teaching/disciplining their children are good parents.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

I don't blame people for being intolerant of kids screaming, kicking, acting up, throwing things, and misbehaving in public.

Sure, I was a kid once, too, but I knew if I behaved that way I would be spanked. I shouldn't HAVE to put up with other people's asshole kids when I'm out.

Eh, being in public means dealing with the public, annoying kids included. Even if I'm annoyed I try and check myself by reminding myself that odds are this is a one off, and the parent is trying to deal with it. If I see the parent being particularly stupid, or hear the screaming go on from aisle to aisle, I'll be less tolerant.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

No parent nor kid is perfect.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Did you know that BP spilled some oil?

I just laughed so hard, I peed a little.



Without re-hashing this entire thread, I think those who said they only spank when the child does something threatening/dangerous are on the right track. I'm not an advocate for spanking as a regular discipline but, from a behavioral standpoint, it's good for children/people to associate life-threatening behaviors (sticking things in a socket, riding bikes into traffic, etc) with pain. Because pain and/or death is what will come of it and better it come from the disciplinarian than the actual result of the action.

Now, there's a difference between spanking to teach a lesson and spanking to let out your own frustrations. I "spank" my nephew occasionally (really more of a light swat) when he's being deliberately defiant because history has shown nothing else will get his attention. I never really swat him hard enough to hurt, but he's a really sensitive kid so even just flicking him in the arm will get his full attention.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Well, as I clarified, the "child experts" can't "fix" her either. She's a kid, not a toy, computer game, or hairdo. Parenting isn't a game with scorecards

I know what parenting is.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

and looking down upon others doesn't mean one is right. It means one has a personal opinion.

Well, you're the one who called your cousin's child annoying.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

My personal opinion is that parents who are loving, consistent, and willing to be creative in their methods of teaching/disciplining their children are good parents.

I essentially said this in my very first post.

I don't think we disagree. I think we have two different angles for the same point. If you think your cousin is an excellent parent whose child is just...whatever no matter what...then okay.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I know what parenting is.



Well, you're the one who called your cousin's child annoying.



I essentially said this in my very first post.

I don't think we disagree. I think we have two different angles for the same point. If you think your cousin is an excellent parent whose child is just...whatever no matter what...then okay.

I'll say this. I do not believe children are things to be "fixed". I think they have individual personalities and thoughts and sometimes even patience and consistency don't work.

And for every expert with opinion A there are three more with opinion B, and all four have credibility. (But, that's the case in any field of course).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I'll say this. I do not believe children are things to be "fixed". I think they have individual personalities and thoughts and sometimes even patience and consistency don't work.

And for every expert with opinion A there are three more with opinion B, and all four have credibility. (But, that's the case in any field of course).

As long as you know that we aren't disagreeing. Do not take my use of "fix" so literally.

[starang21]

i watch shows like that nanny show, and think i'll enjoy putting the fear of God in my child.



don't judge me.