Effects of the New Release Figures

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by carnation

Two things I've noticed that have happened with many, many PNMs we know as a result of the new release figures:

1. If you get cut by several of your favorites after first parties, you can very well end up pledging a "stronger" group than if you get your major cuts after second parties, when you had already cut a bunch yourself. We've known of far more people to drop out after heavy cuts after second parties because they didn't like their returns. Moral of the story: hang in there if you get dropped by a bunch after first parties.

2. At the really competitive schools, legacies have a hard time. Due to the numbers that many groups have to release, they very often release legacies of other houses (especially in-house) after first parties and if the legacy group releases the PNM, she's not left with many choices. I've personally seen this happen to about a dozen great girls in the last 2 years.

What are your observations?

I totally agree with your second point. At some Universities you can not courtesy invite back all your legacies or your entire round 2 would just be legacies. We are even taking a closer look at recommendations. Back in the day all those girls would get courtesy invites back even if you were not sure about them. That is now a thing of the past, at least with our group on our campus.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with your first point. I think this generation of girls just drop out of recruitment if they don't see any Chapters on their invitation list that they like. With the old system they probably would have dropped the 3 or 4 groups that invited them back on the new system. If they are open minded they may end up with a successful recruitment, but I don't find that is the case. I think either way we end up loosing girls who feel like they are to good for the Chapters they have left on their invite list. The key really seems to make it through that first round.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

At some Universities you can not courtesy invite back all your legacies or your entire round 2 would just be legacies.

Why on earth would a university or a Panhel be telling you that? That is membership selection, for members only, and none of their business.

Unless you mean "can't" in the sense of "if we invite all the legacies that's all we'll have and we wanted to invite some other girls, but can't because of RFM." Your chapter and your national policies need to make the choice as to who they want. If you want to downplay legacies, that's your concern, not the uni's or panhel's. Complaining because you have a high return rate and have to cut more girls sooner...well, that just kind of falls flat.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Why on earth would a university or a Panhel be telling you that? That is membership selection, for members only, and none of their business.

Unless you mean "can't" in the sense of "if we invite all the legacies that's all we'll have and we wanted to invite some other girls, but can't because of RFM." Your chapter and your national policies need to make the choice as to who they want. If you want to downplay legacies, that's your concern, not the uni's or panhel's. Complaining because you have a high return rate and have to cut more girls sooner...well, that just kind of falls flat.

I think that's what she meant. Chapters choose not to courtesy invite all their legacies back or they'd have nothing but legacies at their parties. I don't think she meant that the universities weren't allowing them to invite them all back.