Miami University Pi Beta Phi Suspended

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by sydney bristow

You're right, you're right. Miami seems to be cracking down quite a bit. Or maybe these things happen at other places but aren't punished as much? I don't really know I haven't ever heard of anything like this at my school but maybe it happens and is kept under wraps. I still don't understand why most of my generation of greeks think that the only way to have fun at a mixer/formal is to be wasted.

It's not just Greeks...it's people in general. I actually heard a report on the way into work this morning about how widespread this issue is. Apparently even Europe is having a hard time with binge drinking, even though most European families teach their children about drinking in moderation from an early age. The report said that heavy drinking by age 15 was much more prevalent in Europe than in the US, which really surprised me.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127222042

Since this is been shown to be a problem in Europe where there are no Greeks (well, no social fraternities/sororities), this seems to be more of a generational issue.

[sydney bristow]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Since this is been shown to be a problem in Europe where there are no Greeks (well, no social fraternities/sororities), this seems to be more of a generational issue.

Agreed!

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

It's not just Greeks...it's people in general. I actually heard a report on the way into work this morning about how widespread this issue is. Apparently even Europe is having a hard time with binge drinking, even though most European families teach their children about drinking in moderation from an early age. The report said that heavy drinking by age 15 was much more prevalent in Europe than in the US, which really surprised me.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127222042

Since this is been shown to be a problem in Europe where there are no Greeks (well, no social fraternities/sororities), this seems to be more of a generational issue.

All the exchange students from Europe I knew in undergrad could and did drink us American kids under the table on just about any occasion. I'm not surprised there is more binge drinking in Europe among that age group.

Most of my friends during my last two years of college were independents and their parties were every bit as crazy (and often crazier since they had no standards board to answer to) as the greek parties on campus. I definitely think it's a generational thing, not a Greek thing.

I did a lot of that my freshman year, but quickly realized that puking is not fun and being wasted is pointless. I don't get why it's necessary for some people to get black out drunk to have fun, especially after the first few forays into the world of partying freshman year. If I did have fun when I was that drunk, I don't remember it...so what's the point?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

All the exchange students from Europe I knew in undergrad could and did drink us American kids under the table on just about any occasion. I'm not surprised there is more binge drinking in Europe among that age group.

Most of my friends during my last two years of college were independents and their parties were every bit as crazy (and often crazier since they had no standards board to answer to) as the greek parties on campus. I definitely think it's a generational thing, not a Greek thing.

I did a lot of that my freshman year, but quickly realized that puking is not fun and being wasted is pointless. I don't get why it's necessary for some people to get black out drunk to have fun, especially after the first few forays into the world of partying freshman year. If I did have fun when I was that drunk, I don't remember it...so what's the point?

Truth.

[33girl]

Oh please. What about that old chestnut regarding the 60s - "If you can remember it, you weren't there?"

[SWTXBelle]

Honest to goodness, at my campus we weren't running around getting drunk in the 80s - or doing drugs - in my house. Some fraternities were known for their drunken shenanigans, but they were the exception, not the rule. The drinking age was 19 at the time - we drank, but not to excess. And in all the formals I attended as both an active and as an advisor, I can think of only 2 - 3 cases where girls or their dates had to be "talked to". I'd like to think these recent cases are also the exception, not the rule; hope everyone is paying attention and taking note.

Because here's the deal: You may think "Well, thank goodness it's not OUR group" or "Woo-hoo! We can take advantage of the misfortune of others", but to John and Joan Q. Public there is no difference - all the Greek letters sound alike to them and IT MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN YOUR GROUP. Several sororities on probation are going to turn off potential new members, which ends up hurting ALL the sororities. The bad behavior of one group reflects on ALL Greeks - it hurts us all, and it behooves us to make sure actives understand this type of behavior is UNACCEPTABLE and why.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Honest to goodness, at my campus we weren't running around getting drunk in the 80s - or doing drugs - in my house. Some fraternities were known for their drunken shenanigans, but they were the exception, not the rule. The drinking age was 19 at the time - we drank, but not to excess. And in all the formals I attended as both an active and as an advisor, I can think of only 2 - 3 cases where girls or their dates had to be "talked to". I'd like to think these recent cases are also the exception, not the rule; hope everyone is paying attention and taking note.

I don't think the drinking to excess is anything new. I think the complete inability to cover it up is new. Then again, I'm from one of the most restrictive states in the union (and FWIW, Ohio was where everyone used to go to drink as they were one of the last to pass the 21 yr old drinking age) so I'm sure my perspective is different. It was just second nature with us.