Hypothetical Qs - Drugs

Drolefille · #1 05-25-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I've never done drugs and I never will, nor would I want to even try any, even if I wouldn't get addicted and/or sick.

Do you include caffeine, alcohol and cigarettes in there? Just curious as that hypocrisy (in ourselves) is what made my coworkers and I ask the question.

cheerfulgreek · #2 05-25-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Do you include caffeine, alcohol and cigarettes in there? Just curious as that hypocrisy (in ourselves) is what made my coworkers and I ask the question.

I don't smoke, I never have and I never will. I got drunk one time when I was in undergrad (peer pressure) and I got really sick (never again). I mean, I'll have a beer when I go to a baseball game, but other than that I don't drink alcohol. I do drink a lot of coffee, but that's because I had to study a lot when I was doing my classroom work, plus I've been studying a lot for my board exam. I was talking about the illegal drugs and alcohol abuse. I'll never do that.

Drolefille · #3 05-25-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I don't smoke, I never have and I never will. I got drunk one time when I was in undergrad (peer pressure) and I got really sick (never again). I mean, I'll have a beer when I go to a baseball game, but other than that I don't drink alcohol. I do drink a lot of coffee, but that's because I had to study a lot when I was doing my classroom work, plus I've been studying a lot for my board exam. I was talking about the illegal drugs and alcohol abuse. I'll never do that.

*nod* I understand. My envisioning of this was what if instead of drinking socially (not being an alcoholic) people did drugs socially with as minimal repercussions. Similarly instead of caffeine what if people tried meth instead. Kind of a fun idea to play with. Makes me want to write something.

33girl · #4 05-25-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I do drink a lot of coffee, but that's because I had to study a lot when I was doing my classroom work, plus I've been studying a lot for my board exam.

Classic addict rationalization. The only difference between your addiction and that of an alcoholic or a crackhead is the societal acceptance (or lack of same) and the degree of side effects.

cheerfulgreek · #5 05-25-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Classic addict rationalization. The only difference between your addiction and that of an alcoholic or a crackhead is the societal acceptance (or lack of same) and the degree of side effects.

Exactly, it's the degree of side effects, that's why crack is illegal and should be. But, I'm not addicted to coffee. I don't get headaches or anything like that. I used to think my headaches were from the coffee, but when I went to see my Dr. she said it was from lack of sleep.

DrPhil · #6 05-25-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Exactly, it's the degree of side effects, that's why crack is illegal and should be. But, I'm not addicted to coffee. I don't get headaches or anything like that. I used to think my headaches were from the coffee, but when I went to see my Dr. she said it was from lack of sleep.

You don't need to get headaches or an uncomfortable side effect to be addicted to it. You feel as though you need coffee because it gives you a "high."

I rarely drink coffee (maybe once every 5 months) and when I do it's because I like the coffee flavor.

I have never smoked a cigarette but I puffed on a cigar a couple of times (puffed, meaning, puffed out but too paranoid to puff in or inhale...or whatever...LOL--still no fun).

dreamseeker · #7 05-25-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

You don't need to get headaches or an uncomfortable side effect to be addicted to it. You feel as though you need coffee because it gives you a "high."

I rarely drink coffee (maybe once every 5 months) and when I do it's because I like the coffee flavor.

I have never smoked a cigarette but I puffed on a cigar a couple of times (puffed, meaning, puffed out but too paranoid to puff in or inhale...or whatever...LOL--still no fun).

cheerfulgreek · #8 05-26-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

You don't need to get headaches or an uncomfortable side effect to be addicted to it. You feel as though you need coffee because it gives you a "high."

I rarely drink coffee (maybe once every 5 months) and when I do it's because I like the coffee flavor.

I have never smoked a cigarette but I puffed on a cigar a couple of times (puffed, meaning, puffed out but too paranoid to puff in or inhale...or whatever...LOL--still no fun).

A high? But I'm still in my right frame of mind when do drink it. And I haven't had coffee in a few weeks, because I was using one of my 3 week vacations because of my rotations. I mean, I studied, but I went to bed when I felt sleepy. When I did drink it a lot, that was when I was doing my classroom work. I would think an addict drinks it almost daily, like someone who smokes cigarettes. I didn't drink it like that. I will be when it gets closer to my board exam, but right now, I don't stay up all night like I did during my 1st 2 years of school. Now, I have to perform surgeries, give anesthesia etc. It's hard to do that without any sleep. I mean, I don't even know why anyone would compare coffee to crack, or any of the other illegal drugs. Those drugs not only get you high, they make you do things that you normally wouldn't do, like kill, steal, hurt people, etc, just to get it. And smoking? Ewwww, that's just gross, to me.

DrPhil · #9 05-26-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Those drugs not only get you high, they make you do things that you normally wouldn't do, like kill, steal, hurt people, etc, just to get it.

No, the average drug addict (who would be a law abiding citizen if not for the illegal nature of drugs) does not kill, steal, hurt people, or commit crimes to support the habbit. That scare tactic was used to shape public opinion on drugs.

The average motivated offender (who is a lawbreaker beyond the illegal nature of drugs) who is also a drug addict (most are) does kill, steal, hurt people, or commit crimes to support the habbit. Moreover, offenders often take drugs or consume alcohol to further free themselves from a law abiding mindset before commiting a crime. This is what it means that drugs are a facilitating factor for crime.

BTW, a high = whatever utility the substance had for you.

33girl · #10 05-25-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Exactly, it's the degree of side effects, that's why crack is illegal and should be. But, I'm not addicted to coffee. I don't get headaches or anything like that. I used to think my headaches were from the coffee, but when I went to see my Dr. she said it was from lack of sleep.

You didn't read the original proposition properly. Go back, read it again, and THEN answer.

And I hate to break it to you, but your doc is full of shit. You're addicted.