You Don't Need No Stinkin' College Degree!!

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

correction...Wesley and Nicolas brough that upon themselves.

I wrote:
And unfortunately, many a successful skilled actor/musician, or famous "celebrity", have suffered tremendous financial difficulties. Many aspire to the financial success and fame of actual hard-working performers, but even the most successful have hardships: Wesley Snipes is in jail for tax evasion, Nicolas Cage is on the hook for millions (and is bankrupt), Billy Joel (and many other musicians) were screwed out of decades' worth of huge paychecks due to being unaware of what their "people" did with their money. (Not saying that higher-educated people don't have money problems; education can make you more aware of both good opportunities as well as potential risks.)


I know they did. I put a comma after mentioning each one's mistakes, then said that musicians such as Billy Joel had problems due to being unaware of what was going on.

I apologize if it read differently.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

I wrote:
And unfortunately, many a successful skilled actor/musician, or famous "celebrity", have suffered tremendous financial difficulties. Many aspire to the financial success and fame of actual hard-working performers, but even the most successful have hardships: Wesley Snipes is in jail for tax evasion, Nicolas Cage is on the hook for millions (and is bankrupt), Billy Joel (and many other musicians) were screwed out of decades' worth of huge paychecks due to being unaware of what their "people" did with their money. (Not saying that higher-educated people don't have money problems; education can make you more aware of both good opportunities as well as potential risks.)


I know they did. I put a comma after mentioning each one's mistakes, then said that musicians such as Billy Joel had problems due to being unaware of what was going on.

I apologize if it read differently.

I caught it, that's why I didn't bring up Joel...I just don't like 'giving credit' to those who bring money problems on themselves.

Another good example: M.C. Hammer....LOL

[als463]

I have to say that there have been some successful stars who went to college, while still staying in the public eye. The young woman from Wonder Years who is an Alpha Delta Pi, Danika McKellar (sp?) and Jerry O'Connell who is now back in school to get a law degree. Claire Danes went to school, as well as, Natalie Portman. I think it is incredible to be so successful and still choose to go to college. It is too bad that we push college on kids, not for the educational aspect of learning but, more for the money aspect. The message should be that you should go to college to LEARN and not necessarily make money.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

I have to say that there have been some successful stars who went to college, while still staying in the public eye. The young woman from Wonder Years who is an Alpha Delta Pi, Danika McKellar (sp?) and Jerry O'Connell who is now back in school to get a law degree. Claire Danes went to school, as well as, Natalie Portman. I think it is incredible to be so successful and still choose to go to college. It is too bad that we push college on kids, not for the educational aspect of learning but, more for the money aspect. The message should be that you should go to college to LEARN and not necessarily make money.

Yep, Danica McKellar was on NCIS last night.

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yep, Danica McKellar was on NCIS last night.

Oh...Thank you! I knew I was spelling it wrong! See, she even has a Ph.D. in Science, as far as I know. Once again, please don't quote me on this one because I'm not 100% sure. Maybe one of the ladies from ADPi can answer that one.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

Oh...Thank you! I knew I was spelling it wrong! See, she even has a Ph.D. in Science, as far as I know. Once again, please don't quote me on this one because I'm not 100% sure. Maybe one of the ladies from ADPi can answer that one.

I think she's a Mathematician.

Amen, ree-Xi.

ETA: I hear ya, DaemonSeid. Sports and music aren't the only ways to make money, neither are they immediate ways to make money. What parents need to teach kids is that there are no quick fixes or easy money. What's important is to make the investment in your future, which includes some type of secondary education (not necessarily a traditional college or university) and building a skillset. People can take your job and even your career but they can't take what you have learned.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I think she's a Mathematician.

Amen, ree-Xi.

ETA: I hear ya, DaemonSeid. Sports and music aren't the only ways to make money, neither are they immediate ways to make money. What parents need to teach kids is that there are no quick fixes or easy money. What's important is to make the investment in your future, which includes some type of secondary education (not necessarily a traditional college or university) and building a skillset. People can take your job and even your career but they can't take what you have learned.

Exaclty..think about all the one hit wonders out there in entertainment and sports....Maurice Clarrett anyone?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by als463

It is too bad that we push college on kids, not for the educational aspect of learning but, more for the money aspect. The message should be that you should go to college to LEARN and not necessarily make money.

On the flipside of that, I think it's WORSE that some kids get convinced that athletics or entertainment is their only out and they should 'use their talent' to make as much money as they can. While I don't exactly knock it, I think when kids are told that it's their way out (as well as the fast way) someone along the line forgets to let these kids know to be prepared for disappointment along the way and that their talent is still only a dime a dozen.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by als463

Oh...Thank you! I knew I was spelling it wrong! See, she even has a Ph.D. in Science, as far as I know. Once again, please don't quote me on this one because I'm not 100% sure. Maybe one of the ladies from ADPi can answer that one.

Or wiki. Math degree, summa cum laude. She's written the books about how Math Doesn't Suck.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

On the flipside of that, I think it's WORSE that some kids get convinced that athletics or entertainment is their only out and they should 'use their talent' to make as much money as they can. While I don't exactly knock it, I think when kids are told that it's their way out (as well as the fast way) someone along the line forgets to let these kids know to be prepared for disappointment along the way and that their talent is still only a dime a dozen.

This.

[als463]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

On the flipside of that, I think it's WORSE that some kids get convinced that athletics or entertainment is their only out and they should 'use their talent' to make as much money as they can. While I don't exactly knock it, I think when kids are told that it's their way out (as well as the fast way) someone along the line forgets to let these kids know to be prepared for disappointment along the way and that their talent is still only a dime a dozen.

You read my mind! I just watched "The Blind Side" and thought that throughout the movie. It made me smile when Michael went to Ole Miss and made the Dean's List, with the help of a tutor. Not only did he have athletics, he also had education (with help from tutors and teachers who cared). On a side note: That movie made me smile.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

You read my mind! I just watched "The Blind Side" and thought that throughout the movie. It made me smile when Michael went to Ole Miss and made the Dean's List, with the help of a tutor. Not only did he have athletics, he also had education (with help from tutors and teachers who cared). On a side note: That movie made me smile.

I refuse to see that movie. I'm sure it's excellent.

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I refuse to see that movie. I'm sure it's excellent.

Really? I'll be honest, I was pretty reluctant, as well. I was afraid it would be another Ernie Davis (The Express) movie but, it turned out much better than I expected. My boyfriend brought the movie home, so I figured I'd check it out. It made me smile because, while I want to have children of my own, as a former caseworker, I also really want to adopt. I would have no problem (and this may be simply because I grew up in the North) adopting a child of a different race. I am really happy about the ending (spoiler alert) that Michael didn't just make it because of his athletic ability but, because he was willing to put in the academic work.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I refuse to see that movie. I'm sure it's excellent.

I 2nd that...as a matter of fact, if Hollywood wants to make a good story...Make one out of Myron Rolle.