TV Show Videotaped Raid That Killed Detroit Girl

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What's wrong with Sharpton and Jackson coming to the girl's funeral? Why should they have been there when the 17 yo and the Detroit officer were murdered?

Oh and the family should blame "their own" what? Who should the family blame?

Why were they at this little girls funeral to begin with? A police officer was murdered and they weren't there. I guess I just don't understand how they pick and choose which people they support. I would think they would support a police officer who was shot during a shoot out with a drug dealer than a little girl who was (accidentally?) shot while her grandma struggled with an officer because they were coming after their family member who had senselessly (is that a word?) murdered a teenage boy. That's my point.

And by "their own" I meant their own family members. They have no one to blame but their family member hiding there after murdering someone.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I guess I just don't understand how they pick and choose which people they support.

Perhaps in a similar fashion as everyone else does. How taxing it would be to have to visibly (we don't know what they're doing behind the scenes) support everything.

They can't support a little girl who was accidentally killed? The little girl did nothing and she most likely didn't even understand violence. She was an unwilling participant.

Police officers do understand violence and are willing participants on the side of the law. It doesn't make an officer's death excusable or not mourn worthy, but it means that no officer signs up for the job without understanding the possible repurcussions. Children do not sign up for anything nor should there be such repurcussions for childhood.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Why were they at this little girls funeral to begin with? A police officer was murdered and they weren't there. I guess I just don't understand how they pick and choose which people they support. I would think they would support a police officer who was shot during a shoot out with a drug dealer than a little girl who was (accidentally?) shot while her grandma struggled with an officer because they were coming after their family member who had senselessly (is that a word?) murdered a teenage boy. That's my point.

And by "their own" I meant their own family members. They have no one to blame but their family member hiding there after murdering someone.

Because they focus on people they see as victims of oppression, I suspect. A police officer signs up for a dangerous job. His or her death is tragic but part of the every day risks of a job. An innocent killed by the police is a victim. If the police were out of line, then she's a victim of their misbehavior and this relates to the narrative of authority oppressing the innocent. (Hence why Jesse Jackson showed up in my hometown when some kids got expelled for getting into a fight at a football game. He framed it as an unfair, oppressive action. He also doesn't pay his hotel bills.)

My understanding is that they were separate units and that the little girl was not in the same unit as the suspect. Is that not true?

If the police officers were out of line, overzealous, not careful, etc. Then they do share some of the blame. As well, the family might not have had anywhere else to go or felt too threatened to call the police themselves on said suspect.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Perhaps in a similar fashion as everyone else does. How taxing it would be to have to visibly (we don't know what they're doing behind the scenes) support everything.

They can't support a little girl who was accidentally killed? The little girl did nothing and she most likely didn't even understand violence. She was an unwilling participant.

Police officers do understand violence and are willing participants on the side of the law. It doesn't make an officer's death excusable or not mourn worthy, but it means that no officer signs up for the job without understanding the possible repurcussions. Children do not sign up for anything nor should there be such repurcussions for childhood.

I agree with everything you say. And yeah they can support a little girl. Sometimes I feel like their public support is more for their image and not for the actual family/victims, but like you said we don't know what happens behind closed doors.

I guess with this situation it's just upsetting because everyone has been forgetting the original victim in this situation, the teenage boy. His uncle or Godfather or whoever came on the news when it was found that Al and Jesse would be supporting the little girl's family and be there for the funeral. He mentioned how his godson (?) was murdered and if they weren't harboring a murderer that little girl could still be around. He also asked what about his godson? Everyone was focusing on the little girl (which is very true) and everyone has forgotten his godson.

Drole I'm not sure about the duplex situation. I haven't heard anything about that. Just that when the cops went in, set off the cherry bomb or whatever it is, the grandmother struggled with teh cop, his weapon accidentally went off and shot the girl, and the man was caught upstairs.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I agree with everything you say. And yeah they can support a little girl. Sometimes I feel like their public support is more for their image and not for the actual family/victims, but like you said we don't know what happens behind closed doors.

I guess with this situation it's just upsetting because everyone has been forgetting the original victim in this situation, the teenage boy. His uncle or Godfather or whoever came on the news when it was found that Al and Jesse would be supporting the little girl's family and be there for the funeral. He mentioned how his godson (?) was murdered and if they weren't harboring a murderer that little girl could still be around. He also asked what about his godson? Everyone was focusing on the little girl (which is very true) and everyone has forgotten his godson.

Drole I'm not sure about the duplex situation. I haven't heard anything about that. Just that when the cops went in, set off the cherry bomb or whatever it is, the grandmother struggled with teh cop, his weapon accidentally went off and shot the girl, and the man was caught upstairs.

I'm not sure either, but the most recent allegations coming out were that she was actually killed from the porch, so I guess I'm just gonna wait til more details come out.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm not sure either, but the most recent allegations coming out were that she was actually killed from the porch, so I guess I'm just gonna wait til more details come out.

That's what I've decided to do. They say that 48 Hours has all the footage and both sides are reviewing it.

Either way, Fieger is only out for himself. I can't stand him.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Why were they at this little girls funeral to begin with? A police officer was murdered and they weren't there. I guess I just don't understand how they pick and choose which people they support. I would think they would support a police officer who was shot during a shoot out with a drug dealer than a little girl who was (accidentally?) shot while her grandma struggled with an officer because they were coming after their family member who had senselessly (is that a word?) murdered a teenage boy. That's my point.

And by "their own" I meant their own family members. They have no one to blame but their family member hiding there after murdering someone.

Actually, I once heard Sharpton say he goes where he is called. So, how do you know that the family didn't call him and the police department just..didn't.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Actually, I once heard Sharpton say he goes where he is called. So, how do you know that the family didn't call him and the police department just..didn't.

I think I also heard him say that.

I can see the family calling him. I can't see the police department calling him.

[Drolefille]

Appears that it's the police's story vs. the family's lawyer's story, so the videotape will be the big factor. So yeah, just gonna have to wait til someone leaks it to Drudge or Headline news or something.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I think I also heard him say that.

I can see the family calling him. I can't see the police department calling him.

I was thinking the same thing.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Actually, I once heard Sharpton say he goes where he is called. So, how do you know that the family didn't call him and the police department just..didn't.

Makes sense. What about Jesse?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Makes sense. What about Jesse?

I'll ask him the next time I call him.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I'll ask him the next time I call him.

I mean, he IS the Supreme Basileus of Black Folk...





...even if RealBlacks did dispute it.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I mean, he IS the Supreme Basileus of Black Folk...





...even if RealBlacks did dispute it.

You say Basileus, I think Basilisk. Is that wrong?