New SCOTUS nominee

AOII Angel · #1 05-12-2010, 11:33 AM

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Based on.....? I swear some of you need to get out the house more.

And let's pretend she is proven to be a lesbian and even transgendered, that automatically means her nomination is an appeal to the GLTB population?

This is as ridiculous as that Cosby Show episode where the esteemed attorney Claire Huxtable was on a panel with white males and told to "wait to speak on the Black topics...(or woman topics)...."

This is the dilemma of all professional women who choose their careers (consciously or not) over marriage and children. I've seen it so many times in medicine. People always assume that the unmarried professional must be a lesbian. I'm sure the lesbian community would be proud to claim any of these smart, educated, accomplished women as their own, but it takes a little more than just a lack of a wedding ring and children to make someone a member of their group.

deepimpact2 · #2 05-12-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

This is the dilemma of all professional women who choose their careers (consciously or not) over marriage and children. I've seen it so many times in medicine. People always assume that the unmarried professional must be a lesbian. I'm sure the lesbian community would be proud to claim any of these smart, educated, accomplished women as their own, but it takes a little more than just a lack of a wedding ring and children to make someone a member of their group.

I hope you realize that just made an assumption yourself. smh

But for the record, everyone doesn't think a woman is a lesbian because she dedicates herself to her career and doesn't get married or have children. I am also unmarried, have no interest in children, and I am more focused on a career than getting married. That doesn't equate to lesbianism.

MysticCat · #3 05-12-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

But for the record, everyone doesn't think a woman is a lesbian because she dedicates herself to her career and doesn't get married or have children. I am also unmarried, have no interest in children, and I am more focused on a career than getting married. That doesn't equate to lesbianism.

So what is it that makes it "kind of obvious" to you that Kagan is a lesbian?

deepimpact2 · #4 05-12-2010, 11:43 AM

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So what is it that makes it "kind of obvious" to you that Kagan is a lesbian?

It isn't something I can explain to someone like you. You would not "get it."

DrPhil · #5 05-12-2010, 11:45 AM

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It isn't something I can explain to someone like you. You would not "get it."

FAIL.

deepimpact2 · #6 05-12-2010, 11:46 AM

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FAIL.

It isn't up for your determination.

AOII Angel · #7 05-12-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I hope you realize that just made an assumption yourself. smh

But for the record, everyone doesn't think a woman is a lesbian because she dedicates herself to her career and doesn't get married or have children. I am also unmarried, have no interest in children, and I am more focused on a career than getting married. That doesn't equate to lesbianism.

I made an assumption that people assume that women who don't get married and have children are lesbians. Duh. If you haven't heard that one, you haven't been around long enough. It is a VERY common assumption, and becomes more common as the woman ages. I don't make the stereotype; I just get offended by it.

And, no, it doesn't equal lesbianism...that's my exact point.

I guess you think she's "obviously" a lesbian because she opposes DADT. Might I point out that many straight people also oppose DADT, and since it's a liberal agenda (gasp...she is a liberal) it wouldn't be farfetched for a liberal, unmarried, professional, straight female to hold that belief.

deepimpact2 · #8 05-12-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I made an assumption that people assume that women who don't get married and have children are lesbians. Duh. If you haven't heard that one, you haven't been around long enough. It is a VERY common assumption, and becomes more common as the woman ages. I don't make the stereotype; I just get offended by it.

And, no, it doesn't equal lesbianism...that's my exact point.

I guess you think she's "obviously" a lesbian because she opposes DADT. Might I point out that many straight people also oppose DADT, and since it's a liberal agenda (gasp...she is a liberal) it wouldn't be farfetched for a liberal, unmarried, professional, straight female to hold that belief.

When you are done making assumptions about how people make assumptions maybe we can have a real discussion.

AOII Angel · #9 05-12-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

When you are done making assumptions about how people make assumptions maybe we can have a real discussion.

No, we'll actually have a real discussion when you'll actually say what you mean and explain your beliefs rather than say "it's my opinion...I don't have to justify it or explain it." No real discussions or debates can be based on that. If you mean it's obvious that she's a lesbian because she looks like one, then come out and say it. If you don't have the balls to say why you think what you think, then you shouldn't have come out and said it in the first place.

And, BTW, stereotyping the stereotypers isn't the problem. I know many professional women that have had the question raised about their sexuality just because they are beyond college age and still single. There's more than one reason to not be married, and I didn't bring it up because I thought it all up in my pretty little head.

DrPhil · #10 05-12-2010, 05:04 PM

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When you are done making assumptions about how people make assumptions maybe we can have a real discussion.

All could be avoided if you had just explained yourself.

Your explanation is probably not as contrary to our assumptions as you are pretending it is. When people jump through hurdles as you are it usually means that the rest of us aren't missing anything.

deepimpact2 · #11 05-12-2010, 05:33 PM

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All could be avoided if you had just explained yourself.

Your explanation is probably not as contrary to our assumptions as you are pretending it is. When people jump through hurdles as you are it usually means that the rest of us aren't missing anything.

The problem is that you all just DEMAND explanations as I owe you one. I don't. And I certainly don't feel inclined when the conversation always takes such silly turns.

It is funny how you and some others think you are so enlightened and open-minded, but the reality is that when someone does have a opinion that is outside of the "norm" you start making ridiculous statements turning it into a pissing match.

DrPhil · #12 05-12-2010, 05:59 PM

Deepimpact2 sure does cry a lot and make excuses. Goodness gracious. LOL.

No one on a message board owes anyone anything. Because, like I reminded you, I don't give a shit about you. LOL But, you surely thought I owed knowing you because I told you to (figuratively) get out the house more based on the open ended statement that you made. LOL. Within the context of the topic and the thread discussion (you did read how this thread began, right?), you are smart enough to know when you may be inviting snark. Perhaps your explanation would have gone over better than you assumed it would. Afterall, you know us as well as we know you.

It is interesting because I'm almost certain that such open ended statements, that even remotely appear stereotypical, would not go over well with deepimpact if they were made regarding a group that she relates to such as Blacks or women.

Oh well. LOL. Slow news day.