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05-11-2010, 07:23 PM
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Many (if not most) Risk Management policies preclude advisors or alumnae attendance at functions which are paid for by active members.
I cannot speak for every chapter, but I do know that it is customary and usual practice for the sororities at the University of Arizona to hire security for various events. These paid employees are responsible for checking IDs and maintaining order at functions, such as "date dashes." The University also has a strict GAMMA policy, and there are many regulations that govern various social functions.
*segue*
"There but for the Grace of God go you or I"... given what I've observed of the current climate and culture, it could easily have been any other chapter (fraternity or sorority) at any campus on any given day. Who can say? There are things like the perfect storm, and the tipping point, and I for one do not know why things happen the way they do. I wasn't there. Don't see any point in speculating.
Clearly, from what has been reported in the press, this was a hugely regrettable situation which is going to have long-standing repercussions.
However, I am loathe to judge anyone, lest I not be judged. I have faith in the system and in the leadership of Pi Beta Phi, and I believe that this will be addressed through the appropriate channels. I cannot even imagine how difficult it is for everyone involved, and I have faith that they will find the way through this, painful as it might be.
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05-11-2010, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AzTheta
Many (if not most) Risk Management policies preclude advisors or alumnae attendance at functions which are paid for by active members.
I cannot speak for every chapter, but I do know that it is customary and usual practice for the sororities at the University of Arizona to hire security for various events. These paid employees are responsible for checking IDs and maintaining order at functions, such as "date dashes." The University also has a strict GAMMA policy, and there are many regulations that govern various social functions.
*segue*
"There but for the Grace of God go you or I"... given what I've observed of the current climate and culture, it could easily have been any other chapter (fraternity or sorority) at any campus on any given day. Who can say? There are things like the perfect storm, and the tipping point, and I for one do not know why things happen the way they do. I wasn't there. Don't see any point in speculating.
Clearly, from what has been reported in the press, this was a hugely regrettable situation which is going to have long-standing repercussions.
However, I am loathe to judge anyone, lest I not be judged. I have faith in the system and in the leadership of Pi Beta Phi, and I believe that this will be addressed through the appropriate channels. I cannot even imagine how difficult it is for everyone involved, and I have faith that they will find the way through this, painful as it might be.
Panhellenically yours...
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I think Univ of AZ has a good policy. I as an alumna would not want to be in the position of policing these young women. It puts alumnae in an awkward position, may actually leave them open to liability and may injure their relationship with the chapter when it comes to sanctioning the chapter. It's unfortunate that Pi Phi will have to deal with this, and I agree that each of our organizations are lucky that it's not one of our chapters.
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05-11-2010, 09:48 PM
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I want to know why Miami's chapter of Tri Delta was just shut down for two years but Pi Phi was only suspended and just for one year... What could the Tri Deltas have possibly done to get a harsher sanction than Pi Phi if what that letter said was true? I'm guessing nationals had something to do with it, but why would they be so hard on a chapter that was about to celebrate their centennial if the University wouldn't sanction them as hard?
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05-11-2010, 10:17 PM
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The woman said she felt really bad that they've been suspended, that wasn't her intent... but she definately wanted to bring it to the school's attention.
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I'm sorry, but BULL SHIT!! She's getting a ton of publicity for her venue from this, and I'm guessing that her "intent" was for the sorority and the school to pay her 10x what the damages were. No, the sorority members do not deserve any slack being cut to them, but I feel like her spreading it around (and most probably sending the letter to deadspin herself) is super duper tacky.
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That's what happens when you drink Natty Light. bleeeaaaahhhh
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I want to know why Miami's chapter of Tri Delta was just shut down for two years but Pi Phi was only suspended and just for one year... What could the Tri Deltas have possibly done to get a harsher sanction than Pi Phi if what that letter said was true? I'm guessing nationals had something to do with it, but why would they be so hard on a chapter that was about to celebrate their centennial if the University wouldn't sanction them as hard?
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From what I remember, the Tri Delt chapter was allegedly hazing their members. IMO that definitely warrants a harsher sanction than drunk and disorderliness (especially if the dates were doing half or more of the damage, which it sounds like was the case).
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05-11-2010, 10:38 PM
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What exactly is Natty Light? I know they referenced it once on Glee but we don't have it here
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05-11-2010, 10:40 PM
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What exactly is Natty Light? I know they referenced it once on Glee but we don't have it here
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Natural Ice Light. A very cheap, very shitty beer. So it is the stereotypical "frat beer".
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05-11-2010, 10:59 PM
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Natural Ice Light. A very cheap, very shitty beer. So it is the stereotypical "frat beer".
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It used to be Buckhorn. Nasty.
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05-11-2010, 10:41 PM
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05-11-2010, 11:51 PM
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What exactly is Natty Light? I know they referenced it once on Glee but we don't have it here
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Natural Light beer. Cheap beer of choice for those who choose it.
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05-11-2010, 11:44 PM
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I think Univ of AZ has a good policy. I as an alumna would not want to be in the position of policing these young women. It puts alumnae in an awkward position, may actually leave them open to liability and may injure their relationship with the chapter when it comes to sanctioning the chapter.
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Not only that...I sure as hell would rather have Big Burly Security Guy telling Drunken Formal Date (who bench presses 500) that he has to leave the formal than have to put 100 Pound Alumna in that position.
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