The reason why some of us aren't babydaddies turns 50.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Honestly? I think most of the people who say things like "the condom broke," or "I was on antibiotics" aren't telling the truth and just don't want to admit that they just weren't careful that time. I know that there are legitimate cases of birth control failure, but not as many as our peers would have us believe!

There are some great articles out this week in various magazines about the impact of the Pill on women's lives.

Well, I had two legitimate birth control failures. One resulted in a miscarriage since I was on the pill. That one had to do with trying one of the tricyclic pills when they were still pretty new. Problem was, I ovulated twice a month almost every month and the tricyclic one only stopped one of them due to the expected timing of ovulation being skewed for me. I still don't understand how my daughter is here though Condoms and foam together, every single time, no antibiotics.. no clue how that happened. But, she's wonderful and our wedding was already planned so we dealt with it.

I think the number of women who claim to be on the pill for reasons other than birth control is what's really inflated. I think women are still afraid to admit that they just want to be protected any time so that they can do what they want. I had several friends in college claim they were on it for cramps when they didn't have boyfriends. I think it's ok for women to say "Look, I'm on it because I want to make sure I don't get pregnant if I decide to have sex." Maybe that's changed some since I was in college, but I still think a lot of women say that to justify being on birth control.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Well, I had two legitimate birth control failures. One resulted in a miscarriage since I was on the pill. That one had to do with trying one of the tricyclic pills when they were still pretty new. Problem was, I ovulated twice a month almost every month and the tricyclic one only stopped one of them due to the expected timing of ovulation being skewed for me. I still don't understand how my daughter is here though Condoms and foam together, every single time, no antibiotics.. no clue how that happened. But, she's wonderful and our wedding was already planned so we dealt with it.

I think the number of women who claim to be on the pill for reasons other than birth control is what's really inflated. I think women are still afraid to admit that they just want to be protected any time so that they can do what they want. I had several friends in college claim they were on it for cramps when they didn't have boyfriends. I think it's ok for women to say "Look, I'm on it because I want to make sure I don't get pregnant if I decide to have sex." Maybe that's changed some since I was in college, but I still think a lot of women say that to justify being on birth control.

Look, I didn't discount actual birth control failures. After all, all methods are pretty clear that the risk of pregnancy is still there, even with "perfect" use. I just don't think everyone who says "oh, I was on antibiotics" or "the condom broke" is telling the truth. It happens, but maybe 3-5 percent of the time, as opposed to the 25% or so my friends have reported.

I do agree that not as many people are taking the pill for cramps, acne, or the other stuff. Part of that is a lot of insurance carriers didn't always cover the pill for contraceptive uses only, so doctors would diagnose something else. I think that's less of an issue now than it was even 10 years ago, though. Also, keep in mind that when the Pill first came out, many doctors would only prescribe it to married women who had a history of "irregular periods." Apparently, the rate of women who reported "irregular periods" doubled from 1960 to 1970.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Look, I didn't discount actual birth control failures. After all, all methods are pretty clear that the risk of pregnancy is still there, even with "perfect" use. I just don't think everyone who says "oh, I was on antibiotics" or "the condom broke" is telling the truth. It happens, but maybe 3-5 percent of the time, as opposed to the 25% or so my friends have reported.

I do agree that not as many people are taking the pill for cramps, acne, or the other stuff. Part of that is a lot of insurance carriers didn't always cover the pill for contraceptive uses only, so doctors would diagnose something else. I think that's less of an issue now than it was even 10 years ago, though. Also, keep in mind that when the Pill first came out, many doctors would only prescribe it to married women who had a history of "irregular periods." Apparently, the rate of women who reported "irregular periods" doubled from 1960 to 1970.

I've had condoms break before but it did not result in pregnancy. I'm not on the pill, either, so... it was a very nervous couple of weeks.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by agzg

I've had condoms break before but it did not result in pregnancy. I'm not on the pill, either, so... it was a very nervous couple of weeks.

Yeah, it happens. I never said it didn't. I just don't think everyone who blames a pregnancy on a condom breaking is telling the truth. I think the NIH reports the condom breakage rate at somewhere between 2 and 3 percent. In my peer group it's allegedly 25%, LOL.

It's kind of like deviated septums and nose jobs. I'm sure there are people out there whose septums really were deviated and they needed that nose job! For most of them? Not so much.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Yeah, it happens. I never said it didn't. I just don't think everyone who blames a pregnancy on a condom breaking is telling the truth. I think the NIH reports the condom breakage rate at somewhere between 2 and 3 percent. In my peer group it's allegedly 25%, LOL.

It's kind of like deviated septums and nose jobs. I'm sure there are people out there whose septums really were deviated and they needed that nose job! For most of them? Not so much.

LOL. The truth of the matter is that the average sexually active person knows very little about their bodies and sex. People are also very careless and shortsighted at least once in their lives--35 year old versions of children and it unfortunately has lasting consequences sometimes.

Afterall, there are a lot of grown men who think they need to wear a Magnum. Just another example of the ignorance and ridiculousness of adult sexual activity.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. The truth of the matter is that the average sexually active person knows very little about their bodies and sex. People are also very careless and shortsighted at least once in their lives--35 year old versions of children and it unfortunately has lasting consequences sometimes.

I met an adult woman at a work-related seminar (with a Master's in a health-related field) who told me you couldn't get pregnant while on your period.

I felt like I was in 7th grade all over again.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I met an adult woman at a work-related seminar (with a Master's in a health-related field) who told me you couldn't get pregnant while on your period.

I felt like I was in 7th grade all over again.

I had a friend in college who told me that her sex ed teacher in HS told her that you couldn't get pregnant if your BF's penis was less than 4" because it wouldn't extend through the cervix to implant the sperm into the endometrial cavity I laughed my ass off! I told her that she didn't want any man's penis going through her cervix! It's amazing how little people know about how all of that stuff works!

[thetygerlily]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. The truth of the matter is that the average sexually active person knows very little about their bodies and sex. People are also very careless and shortsighted at least once in their lives--35 year old versions of children and it unfortunately has lasting consequences sometimes.

Afterall, there are a lot of grown men who think they need to wear a Magnum. Just another example of the ignorance and ridiculousness of adult sexual activity.

There was a mini-series in the UK that addressed many of these issues and was pretty funny. Surprisingly liberal & honest, considering it was on tv! http://sexperienceuk.channel4.com/sex-education

The first six-part series of The Sex Education Show tackled the nation's sexual ignorance and reticence by capturing a wide range of different personal experiences of sexual issues and problems, as well as offering candid advice. The series uncovered the secret sex lives of teenagers as they talk about pornography, abortion, sexual disease, homosexuality, peer pressure and pregnancy. Together with the results of the biggest ever television survey of teenage attitudes to sex, it revealed a striking picture of the real state of sex education in Britain today.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by thetygerlily

There was a mini-series in the UK that addressed many of these issues and was pretty funny. Surprisingly liberal & honest, considering it was on tv! http://sexperienceuk.channel4.com/sex-education

Well, it was British. Most other developed countries have a much more liberal and honest view about sex education than Americans do. Blame our crazy Puritan past!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

It's kind of like deviated septums and nose jobs. I'm sure there are people out there whose septums really were deviated and they needed that nose job! For most of them? Not so much.

"But I just wanted to be able to breathe easier."

/Ashlee Simpson

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

"But I just wanted to be able to breathe easier."

/Ashlee Simpson

Billy Joel's daughter also said that. Funny.