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Old 05-01-2010, 09:13 PM
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:30 PM
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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so they're making changes.

http://azstarnet.com/news/article_a9...a09b4b786.html
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:56 AM
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:10 AM
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6. The law makes it a state crime for illegal immigrants to work in Arizona.
• The law says: "It is unlawful for a person who is unlawfully present in the United States and who is an unauthorized alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place or perform work as an employee or independent contractor in this state."
• What that means: This is the most clearly written part of the statute and what should be the headline of any story about the new law, Chin said.
This makes any illegal immigrant who is working or trying to get work - for example, by showing up at popular gathering spots for day laborers - at risk of being arrested by an Arizona law enforcement officer. This is a big change, because previously, a non-citizen did not commit a state crime by working or seeking work, Chin said.
This is really nice. Make it a criminal offense to work in the AZ if you are an illegal alien, but they're just going to let all the employers, who want to cheat the system by paying for cheap labor with no benefits, keep hanging that carrot that lures the indigent Mexicans over the border looking for a better life. Of course, they have an addition to the law that makes it illegal to pick up illegal aliens IF you block traffic!
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:30 AM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble. So why is it this such a big deal? If you have ID your fine if you don't well then theres an issue as there should be. I am sorry I have many friend who came here legally and feel it is wrong that illegals get away with stuff like this. People always play the "race card" when it works in their favor. I think we have a big problem with things like that and why is it never ok for a "white" person to play the "race card" sorry to tell everyone but "white" people are getting out number and stats show by 2012 they will be. So just carry your ID!
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:33 AM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble. So why is it this such a big deal? If you have ID your fine if you don't well then theres an issue as there should be. I am sorry I have many friend who came here legally and feel it is wrong that illegals get away with stuff like this. People always play the "race card" when it works in their favor. I think we have a big problem with things like that and why is it never ok for a "white" person to play the "race card" sorry to tell everyone but "white" people are getting out number and stats show by 2012 they will be. So just carry your ID!
You win the award for the dumbest post in this thread. Awesome.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:38 AM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble. So why is it this such a big deal? If you have ID your fine if you don't well then theres an issue as there should be. I am sorry I have many friend who came here legally and feel it is wrong that illegals get away with stuff like this. People always play the "race card" when it works in their favor. I think we have a big problem with things like that and why is it never ok for a "white" person to play the "race card" sorry to tell everyone but "white" people are getting out number and stats show by 2012 they will be. So just carry your ID!
How about you actually read about the issues instead of parroting what you hear on Foxnews or Limbaugh? No one is arguing about showing ID. That is not the problem.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:40 AM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble. So why is it this such a big deal? If you have ID your fine if you don't well then theres an issue as there should be. I am sorry I have many friend who came here legally and feel it is wrong that illegals get away with stuff like this. People always play the "race card" when it works in their favor. I think we have a big problem with things like that and why is it never ok for a "white" person to play the "race card" sorry to tell everyone but "white" people are getting out number and stats show by 2012 they will be. So just carry your ID!
This person sounds stupid, but this reminded me of a conversation I had yesterday.

The woman I was speaking to was of Mexican descent, and didn't understand "what the big deal was." I tried to explain what was wrong with the bill, and her response was similar to the quoted response ("Just show your ID!").

The kicker, though, was this gem: "Well, you probably get pulled over for DWB and it's the same thing! Why is it an issue now??"

It made me upset that a college-educated individual tried to use that as a defense.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:46 AM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble. So why is it this such a big deal? If you have ID your fine if you don't well then theres an issue as there should be. I am sorry I have many friend who came here legally and feel it is wrong that illegals get away with stuff like this. People always play the "race card" when it works in their favor. I think we have a big problem with things like that and why is it never ok for a "white" person to play the "race card" sorry to tell everyone but "white" people are getting out number and stats show by 2012 they will be. So just carry your ID!
The only time I've ever seen a white person asked for ID was outside a bar/in line at the liquor store/at the gas station buying cigarettes.

Also, although "white" people might be a "minority" they will still be the majority in terms on power and economic status.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:50 AM
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But, but, but, wait it gets worse (~ Onyx "Slam")...whites may prepare a RACE CARD because they are becoming outnumbered. That is not only a silly assertion but it is inaccurate based on demographic stats (don't follow the 2012 projections rabbit down the hole) and power dynamics that exist regardless of whether whites are the population majority or the minority (a la South Afrika).
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:53 AM
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The only time I've ever seen a white person asked for ID was outside a bar/in line at the liquor store/at the gas station buying cigarettes.
Including "white" Hispanics and people of the "white diaspora" from across the world.

That sucks to have to say "I wanna be carded tooooooo! I might be illegal! Card me!! Give me my illegal props instead of white privilege!!"
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:28 AM
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If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:56 PM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble.
Define "trouble"

Having an ID alone is not enough for you to be arrested. Not having an ID while in the process of committing a crime however can land you an extra charge of failure to properly identify oneself. At the most, having an ID can get you detained.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:10 PM
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I think people are blowing this up. If you are in ANY state and are asked to show ID and you don't have it you get in trouble.
No. Really, no. I forget my DL all the time if I take it out of my wallet for a night because I'm going out and don't want to carry my purse. The next day I'll be out and about and my ID is still in the pocket of the pants I wore the night before.

This happened to me once on a day I was in a car accident. A CAR ACCIDENT WITH NO DRIVERS LICENSE ON HAND. Know what happened? Zippo. Cop pulled up my license plate, I told him who I was, and we were a-ok.

Somehow I doubt that would've been so easy if I didn't look the way I do.
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