10-year-old's pregnancy fuels Mexican abortion debate

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

That's really sad. There are so many horrifying circumstances that can happen before/during our lives that therapy can't heal. It is ALWAYS tragic and heartbreaking. Yet somehow, we do heal (to the best of our ability) and most learn to survive, some of us even find it in ourselves to thrive. We can spout these statements here, but I doubt any of you walk up to any one of these incredibly resilient survivors, look into his or her eyes and say "it would have been better if you hadn't been born."

I'm just saying that I would wish I hadn't been born if I found out I were the product of incest. Of course I wouldn't walk up to someone, look them in the eyes, and say that.

Originally Posted by WinniBug

But will her heart heal from murdering her baby?

Who says it would be wounded in the first place? I truly believe any guilt associated with abortion is because anti-choice people say people who have had (an) abortion(s) should feel guilty. I don't think she would feel the guilt if people didn't try to make her feel guilty.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I'm just saying that I would wish I hadn't been born if I found out I were the product of incest. Of course I wouldn't walk up to someone, look them in the eyes, and say that.

That's different. You said "Imagine if you had been," which does not imply that you were talking about yourself. In any case, I'm sorry, I misunderstood you.

hijack

Those terms pro-life and pro-choice are stupid. A person being pro-life does not mean they are anti-choice anymore than someone pro-choice is anti-life. Under that guise, the terms may as well be "pro-oppression" and "pro-murder," which is how both sides have come to treat each other.

/hijack

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Those terms pro-life and pro-choice are stupid. A person being pro-life does not mean they are anti-choice anymore than someone pro-choice is anti-life. Under that guise, the terms may as well be "pro-oppression" and "pro-murder," which is how both sides have come to treat each other.

That's why I said "pro-abortion."

When it comes to pregnancy, I believe that people have a right to control what's happening to their body to the best of their ability and they DON'T have to justify it to anyone as long as they are terminating the pregnancy during a legal period. That's related to when I think "life" and "gifts from God" begin and its variance based on whether it's wanted or unwanted.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That's why I said "pro-abortion."

LOL I don't like that term either but you were, indeed, excluded from the rant, doc.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

LOL I don't like that term either but you were, indeed, excluded from the rant, doc.

I thought it was a general rant, anyway.

You either think abortion is a viable alternative for people (if done within the legal and medical restrictions) or you don't. If you do, that's pro-abortion as far as I'm concerned. Being pro-abortion doesn't mean you're going against your religion, femininity, or any of that other stuff that attempts to control people's bodies.

[epchick]

I thought of this thread when I heard 2 separate groups of kids, 1 group of 6th graders and another group of 7th graders talking about how "lame" it is that so-and-so were virgins. The things that came out of these 11 and 12 year olds was CRAZY!! How open they were about the sex they were having and such was shocking!

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by epchick

I thought of this thread when I heard 2 separate groups of kids, 1 group of 6th graders and another group of 7th graders talking about how "lame" it is that so-and-so were virgins. The things that came out of these 11 and 12 year olds was CRAZY!! How open they were about the sex they were having and such was shocking!

I'm going to pray that they were all actually virgins and everything they said was a bluff to sound cool.

Yes, I know that is incredibly improbable.