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04-22-2010, 09:14 PM
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Unitarians and Episcopalians are some places you may want to check out. Some, but not all individual ELCA Lutheran churches as well.
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Unitarians have fairly extreme views because they don't believe in the Trinity. The Episcopal church it really depends on the independent church, though from what i understand most churches are more on the liberal side.
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04-22-2010, 09:18 PM
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Unitarians have fairly extreme views because they don't believe in the Trinity. The Episcopal church it really depends on the independent church, though from what i understand most churches are more on the liberal side.
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Do Unitarians really NOT believe in anything? I thought you could believe in anything or not believe in anything to be a member.
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04-22-2010, 09:21 PM
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Do Unitarians really NOT believe in anything? I thought you could believe in anything or not believe in anything to be a member.
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Honestly I don't know, but that is what I was aware of. Unitarian Christianity at least is belief in Jesus, but not the Trinity. Or that is what I was told.
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04-22-2010, 09:46 PM
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Honestly I don't know, but that is what I was aware of. Unitarian Christianity at least is belief in Jesus, but not the Trinity. Or that is what I was told.
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Nope. http://www.uua.org/visitors/index.shtml
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04-22-2010, 10:16 PM
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Notice I said Unitarian Christianity, not Unitarian Universalism.
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04-22-2010, 10:22 PM
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Notice I said Unitarian Christianity, not Unitarian Universalism.
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From RUOXAlum
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I heart you for this, my Panhellenic sister, even though we have different views on things...
Unitarian-Universalists and Episcopalians are some places you may want to check out. Some, but not all individual ELCA Lutheran churches as well.
Fixed it for you (The entire denomination is for this, organizationally speaking.)
And this is why I was thinking universalist  Sorry, Vito, we were on different tracks!
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04-23-2010, 09:47 AM
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Without in any way denigrating the 10 Commandments or their importance, this is just way hyperbolic. (And not true.)
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The Episcopal church it really depends on the independent church, though from what i understand most churches are more on the liberal side.
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All depends where you are. In your part of the country, probably so. In my part of the country, not so much.
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04-22-2010, 09:44 PM
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Unitarians have fairly extreme views because they don't believe in the Trinity.
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Unitarians aren't the only ones. In fact, many well-known preachers...like T.D. Jakes, aren't Unitarians yet they don't believe in the Trinity either.
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04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
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Unitarians aren't the only ones. In fact, many well-known preachers...like T.D. Jakes, aren't Unitarians yet they don't believe in the Trinity either.
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Wow. I never knew that. I don't listen to Jakes though, but I'm surprised to hear that. Are you sure?
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04-23-2010, 06:58 PM
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Wow. I never knew that. I don't listen to Jakes though, but I'm surprised to hear that. Are you sure?
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Yeah, he's Oneness Pentecostal. His website (and that of his church) used to state his belief on the whole Trinity thing, but he has since changed/re-worded it.
He basically believes that the Trinity is polytheistic--the whole idea of 3 in 1. His belief is that it was first God. Then he transformed into Jesus (meaning there was no longer "God") and then when Jesus ascended into heaven, he transformed into the Holy Spirit. So now, there is no 'God,' there is no 'Jesus,' it is now the Holy Spirit. He will say "Jesus" but he means the Holy Spirit, not Jesus himself.
I don't agree with his belief, but I very much enjoy hearing Bishop Jakes preach.
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