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Old 04-19-2010, 06:15 PM
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Perhaps, but DHHS is an executive agency, so there's no question he has the authority to request or order them to take specific action that is otherwise within their statutory authority. I mean, this is just criticizing the boss for being the boss.
Let me be more specific...

I'm not sure that the DHHS should have any power. Unless you take a rather wide view of the Constitution, I'm not sure it's mentioned in there.

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How do these orders supercede Constitutionality or infringe on the balance of powers? He's the head (constitutionally) of the executive branch issuing executive orders related to how the executive branch will function.
"All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."
--U.S. Constitution, Art. I, § 1

I don't read President anywhere in there. Do you?

Granted, I'm not sure what he did was considered a law (but if you didn't consider it as a law, then you could easily say that many of the Civil Rights acts weren't laws, basically a similar issue) but it certainly changed human action. I don't know it seems like a rather grey area.


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There's absolutely no "comdemnation" of other branches of government.
Will you remind me again of what was said during the State of the Union address?

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The courts always have the authority to declare an executive order invalid if the president exceeded his authority in issuing it. Congress has the power to supercede the order by statute.
They do. Will they? No.

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But what are the orders about? Looking through the lists you posted, there's an awful lot of fairly routine stuff in there.
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