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04-13-2010, 08:14 PM
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in her defense, you can ask the question, but if the person you are asking doesn't quite understand what really is the truth, then they might give out bogus information unknowingly.
when my daughter was going thru recruitment, i had instructed her that while i hoped that she wouldn't suicide a sorority, the computer would not kick out her bid card if she did(something that pnms seem to be repeatedly told will happen). sure enough, her rho gamma told her recruitment group that if they suicided, their bid card would be rejected. i can easily see the scenario happening as the op described. everyone is not so lucky as to have someone in the know to ask. it doesn't change the outcome for the op, but i can see that she could have been misinformed.
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04-13-2010, 08:39 PM
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I feel bad that asking the Greek life office directly wasn't seen as the most direct way to get information, and that strangers on the internet was her first choice. Really, talk to your school, give them the details, and go from there.
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04-13-2010, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FSUZeta
in her defense, you can ask the question, but if the person you are asking doesn't quite understand what really is the truth, then they might give out bogus information unknowingly.
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
I think it's a different story when someone acting in some sort of official capacity gives you the wrong info. For example: if a PX tells you you're guaranteed to get your first choice, as a PNM you are likely going to believe her. Why? Because you're told that she is your guide and knows about all of the policies.
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Absolutely. I hate that this happens, but that doesn't mean the rules should be bent. When I was a Rho Gamma, our training over-emphasized dealing with upset PNMs and taught next to nothing about policies and rules. We were instructed to ask a member of the recruitment team, but the problem is that Rho Gammas THINK they know things they really don't.
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04-13-2010, 10:00 PM
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I feel bad that asking the Greek life office directly wasn't seen as the most direct way to get information, and that strangers on the internet was her first choice. Really, talk to your school, give them the details, and go from there.
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I have to say that I agree with this statement. I can't imagine going on Greekchat to ask a question about my situation over going directly to the Greek Life Advisor. It reminds me of how people on here would get irritated with having to "spoon-feed" people information. Don't get me wrong, GC is a great tool to have in your corner but, why aren't women looking at policies before making such a commitment.
Once again, I think it goes back to the fact that (regardless of your Rho Chi/ Gamma, whatever) these women (and I say women because these are adults and not children) need to take responsibility before pointing the finger at their Recruitment Counselors and blaming them. If you don't take the time to read up on something that is so important to you, then maybe it is not something you should get.
Even as someone who didn't really have much Greek in my family (except my uncle who is a Sigma Chi from my University), I knew that once I went into the process and accepted a bid-I couldn't just drop it and pledge elsewhere. I knew that I couldn't decide mid-way through pleding (my Phi process) that if I didn't like the girls or the pledging process, I could just leave and go somewhere else. If you don't have enough sense to care about this stuff prior to getting involved, maybe going Greek isn't for you. I think the OP shot herself in the foot when it comes to recruitment and finding a sorority that fits her.
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04-14-2010, 12:26 AM
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thank you so much guys.. i will be a junior next year, and we recruit only in the spring.. what the girl actually told me was that i was going to get my first choice, but i should put my second one just for safety... what it turned out was that the computer tries to fill up each sorority with a certain quota regardless to the new memeber choice.. so for example i put x sorority first and y second, and say both put me 1st, since y sorority has less people i would be placed there.. which sucks...
also i have no idea who the adviser is...or who to ask on campus (we are a big school)
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04-14-2010, 12:47 AM
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thank you so much guys.. i will be a junior next year, and we recruit only in the spring.. what the girl actually told me was that i was going to get my first choice, but i should put my second one just for safety... what it turned out was that the computer tries to fill up each sorority with a certain quota regardless to the new memeber choice.. so for example i put x sorority first and y second, and say both put me 1st, since y sorority has less people i would be placed there.. which sucks...
also i have no idea who the adviser is...or who to ask on campus (we are a big school)
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Just as an FYI (and other girls with ICS experience please correct me if I'm wrong):
Actually the computer program does take PNM choice into account. It is set up to place as many girls in chapters as it can (though not always their top choices).
The issue comes when you are not high enough on first choice's bid list. If first choice fills to quota before you are reached on their list (meaning you are not high enough) the computer is going to move on to your 2nd choice.
So it's not that #2 has fewer people, you were likely higher on #2's list than you were on your #1's.
Regardless of that, you should not have been told you were going to get your first choice, because that is not a guarantee.
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04-14-2010, 01:12 AM
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also i have no idea who the adviser is...or who to ask on campus (we are a big school)
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Go to your school's website and search under "greek advisor" or "greek life advisor." This is the person you should inform.
And KSUviolet is right...say each sorority could take 10 people, you were #20 in the order of people that your first choice liked and #3 in the order of people that your second choice liked. Unless 10 people who are ahead of you don't want your first choice, you're going to get your second choice.
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