Sprite Step-Off Update: ZTA and AKA to share 1st place

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Hmm you say "Zeta" won fair and square, but yet several things you said after that contradicts your point.

of course they do if you take them out of context, for example:

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Hmm you say "Zeta" won fair and square, but yet several things you said after that contradicts your point.

I said no such thing...

anyway:

I said Zeta won fair and square, as in they performed a routine and the judges voted it the best. As far as I know Zeta didnt bribe anyone...break another team's member's leg...or give someone food poisoning...

My point was that their show wasnt without flaws, but it was definitely competitive.

Plenty of performances in judged competitions WIN that arent perfect.

Ask anyone who's done figure skating, gymnastics, diving...even marching band...there's always that competition where someone wins with "ok" because they did ok very well rather than doing something new.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by xp2k

of course they do if you take them out of context, for example:



I said no such thing...

I gotcha and, like you said, many of the viewers are oblivious to all of this and couldn't care less about the logistics and context.

Many people are still like "so what if the steps may've been borrowed and the routine may've been taught---they performed it and did quite well, flaws and all." I'd feel the same way if I didn't know all that goes into stepping and stepshows.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by xp2k

of course they do if you take them out of context, for example:



I said no such thing...

anyway:

I said Zeta won fair and square, as in they performed a routine and the judges voted it the best. As far as I know Zeta didnt bribe anyone...break another team's member's leg...or give someone food poisoning...

My point was that their show wasnt without flaws, but it was definitely competitive.

Plenty of performances in judged competitions WIN that arent perfect.

Ask anyone who's done figure skating, gymnastics, diving...even marching band...there's always that competition where someone wins with "ok" because they did ok very well rather than doing something new.

Yes, but that still doesnt explain how they scored well concerning creativity. If a show lacks craetivity, then I would argue that it was not "definitely competitive."

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Yes, but that still doesnt explain how they scored well concerning creativity. If a show lacks craetivity, then I would argue that it was not "definitely competitive."

Because if you take the comments she made in the context of what she said,

Without regard to history, or culture or whatever, I'd say Zeta won it fair and square.

Then that answers your question.

Anything that is judged is at the discretion of the judges.

The step off was an attempt at mainstream corporate marketing judged by non-D9 individuals.

That's like me judging figure skating.

I can't tell you the difference between a triple axle and a double two loop whatever, but if they execute it without stumbling and they look better than the competition who used to do that routine, then guess what they win, regardless

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

I can't tell you the difference between a triple axle and a double two loop whatever, but if they execute it without stumbling and they look better than the competition who used to do that routine, then guess what they win, regardless

Right, but if there were things that you were supposed to look for in judging those things and you had no idea what to look for, then that creates an issue. It is about more than just making sure they don't stumble while performing a triple axle.