Awkward Aspirants/Awkward Situations

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I think that you are taking the wrong perspective to this situation.

See, back in the old'n days, pre-MIP, this type of behavior was tolerated, and for some members and chapters, even expected. It was called "pre-hazing / pre-pledging" - a way to see who was really serious about pursuing membership. So the awkward aspirant was not unusual. It was considered normal.

It is still considered normal. That doesn't make it any less of an awkward aspirant.

This isn't about pre-MIP vs. MIP nor about "pre-hazing/pre-pledging."

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It is still considered normal. That doesn't make it any less of an awkward aspirant.

True.

This isn't about pre-MIP vs. MIP nor about "pre-hazing/pre-pledging."

For me it is. I came in pre-MIP and had to adjust to MIP. So for me, I'm used to dealing with the 'awkward aspirant' because I don't think it is that unusual or shocking. I also came in as an undergrad, so it was very normal for people to just walk up to you and talk to you about joining.

So, from my perspective I think Sen just over-reacted. *shrugs*

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

True.



For me it is. I came in pre-MIP and had to adjust to MIP. So for me, I'm used to dealing with the 'awkward aspirant' because I don't think it is that unusual or shocking. I also came in as an undergrad, so it was very normal for people to just walk up to you and talk to you about joining.

So, from my perspective I think Sen just over-reacted.

I came in as a collegiate post-MIP and I also am used to dealing with the "awkward aspirant" because it isn't unusual or shocking. However, I know what "awkward aspirant" meant to me back then (partially because I was an awkward aspirant at times) and what it means to me as an alum.

So, there clearly isn't a universal "awkward aspirant" definition or experience. I'd be interested to read your "awkward aspirant" experience based on what "awkward aspirant" means to you, sigmadiva.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I came in as a collegiate post-MIP and I also am used to dealing with the "awkward aspirant" because it isn't unusual or shocking. However, I know what "awkward aspirant" meant to me back then (partially because I was an awkward aspirant at times) and what it means to me as an alum.

So, there clearly isn't a universal "awkward aspirant" definition or experience. I'd be interested to read your "awkward aspirant" experience based on what "awkward aspirant" means to you, sigmadiva.

I think people venture into being an awkward aspirant when they are sooo desperate they'll do *anything* to become a member.

I was told this, so I don't know how true this is, but....I was told about a young lady who attended my undergrad university (Texas A&M) and she wanted to join DST soooo bad. So, she ends up at some house party hosted by a DST, and to show her willingness to want to be a DST, she went back into the DST's kitchen and started washing her dishes. The lady of the house, the DST member, asked what she was doing and why she was doing that. The girl just said she was trying to help.

Now, if that is true, that is awkward. Just asking somebody at work is not awkward. Unless I guess, they are asking you jumping up and down with big puppy-dog eyes, drooling at the mouth.

Oh, I think the person who told me this wanted to know if I knew the desperate young lady since I went to A&M. I told them I didn't.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I think people venture into being an awkward aspirant when they are sooo desperate they'll do *anything* to become a member.

I was told this, so I don't know how true this is, but....I was told about a young lady who attended my undergrad university (Texas A&M) and she wanted to join DST soooo bad. So, she ends up at some house party hosted by a DST, and to show her willingness to want to be a DST, she went back into the DST's kitchen and started washing her dishes. The lady of the house, the DST member, asked what she was doing and why she was doing that. The girl just said she was trying to help.

Now, if that is true, that is awkward. Just asking somebody at work is not awkward. Unless I guess, they are asking you jumping up and down with big puppy-dog eyes, drooling at the mouth.

Oh, I think the person who told me this wanted to know if I knew the desperate young lady since I went to A&M. I told them I didn't.

Now that is a mess. The damn girl was pledging/hazing herself...LOL! which some "awkward aspirants" have been known to do.