More Men are Marrying Wealthier Women

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by epchick

A lot of people wore better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.


ETA: A manager at Starbucks makes more money than a teacher (at least here they do). I wouldn't necessarily knock "fast-food" jobs.

A teacher requires an education and is a career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.

If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.

I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.

eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

A teacher requires an education and is career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.


I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.

eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.

Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.

And to the ETA: That was my point

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.

And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong with that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.

I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.

Now you're putting words in my mouth, knight_shadow. I never said that or anything close to it. I said if he's working a minimum wage job and not doing anything to better himself, then I don't want to be with him. That's what I said.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Now you're putting words in my mouth, knight_shadow. I never said that or anything close to it. I said if he's working a minimum wage job and not doing anything to better himself, then I don't want to be with him. That's what I said.

I didn't say that's what you said; I said that's how I interpreted it.

But, again, I now see the point you were making.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I didn't say that's what you said; I said that's how I interpreted it.

But, again, I now see the point you were making.

o.k. fine.

[cheerfulgreek]

What about retirement? 401K? I mean, how can anyone take advantage of their 401K package if they're making pennies to live on?