More Men are Marrying Wealthier Women

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Depends on what kind of bills said person has. And what position he has.

If he's making sandwiches as a sandwich guy or whatever they call the title now, then no. Whatever kind of bills he has, if he's making sandwiches for a living, and that's it, then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

...then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.

A lot of people work better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.


ETA: A manager at Starbucks makes more money than a teacher (at least here they do). I wouldn't necessarily knock "fast-food" jobs.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by epchick

A lot of people wore better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.

*nods*

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

If he's making sandwiches as a sandwich guy or whatever they call the title now, then no. Whatever kind of bills he has, if he's making sandwiches for a living, and that's it, then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.

If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.

If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.

If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.

find me someone who is making $30K and debt free ^wink^

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

find me someone who is making $30K and debt free ^wink^

I've seen it once, so there's bound to be others lol

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by epchick

A lot of people wore better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.


ETA: A manager at Starbucks makes more money than a teacher (at least here they do). I wouldn't necessarily knock "fast-food" jobs.

A teacher requires an education and is a career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.

If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.

I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.

eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

A teacher requires an education and is career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.


I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.

eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.

Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.

And to the ETA: That was my point

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.

And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong with that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.

I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.

Now you're putting words in my mouth, knight_shadow. I never said that or anything close to it. I said if he's working a minimum wage job and not doing anything to better himself, then I don't want to be with him. That's what I said.

[cheerfulgreek]

What about retirement? 401K? I mean, how can anyone take advantage of their 401K package if they're making pennies to live on?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.

If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.

stable and comfortable are two different things. and two people can have two definitions of what comfortable is.

someone can be comfortable on 30k. i'm just not that someone.