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01-20-2010, 10:34 PM
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Depends on what kind of bills said person has. And what position he has.
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If he's making sandwiches as a sandwich guy or whatever they call the title now, then no. Whatever kind of bills he has, if he's making sandwiches for a living, and that's it, then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.
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01-20-2010, 10:50 PM
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...then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.
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A lot of people work better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.
ETA: A manager at Starbucks makes more money than a teacher (at least here they do). I wouldn't necessarily knock "fast-food" jobs.
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01-20-2010, 10:51 PM
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A lot of people wore better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.
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01-20-2010, 10:50 PM
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If he's making sandwiches as a sandwich guy or whatever they call the title now, then no. Whatever kind of bills he has, if he's making sandwiches for a living, and that's it, then he's living check to check. That's not financial stability.
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If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.
If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.
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01-20-2010, 10:56 PM
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If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.
If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.
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find me someone who is making $30K and debt free ^wink^
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01-20-2010, 11:00 PM
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find me someone who is making $30K and debt free ^wink^
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I've seen it once, so there's bound to be others lol
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01-20-2010, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by epchick
A lot of people wore better jobs than fast food places and still live paycheck to paycheck. A "good" job and ambition don't mean anything when you can't even live w/i your means and are up to your eyeballs in debt.
ETA: A manager at Starbucks makes more money than a teacher (at least here they do). I wouldn't necessarily knock "fast-food" jobs.
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A teacher requires an education and is a career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.
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If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.
If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.
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I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.
eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.
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01-20-2010, 11:01 PM
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A teacher requires an education and is career path. A manager at Startbucks can also be a career path. It's also important not to live above your means. There are some people making 6 figures and are still living paycheck to paycheck, and that's because they're living above their means.
I didn't say manager. I said sandwich maker...entry level. No ambition.
eta: and if he has that much credit card debt, then he's not very good with money.
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Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.
And to the ETA: That was my point
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01-20-2010, 11:06 PM
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Entry level is just that -- entry. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get a higher position right off the bat. Maybe he's paying his dues until something better comes along. You never know a person's full situation.
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And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong with that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.
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01-20-2010, 11:12 PM
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And I know that. I honestly don't think anything is wrong that, really, I don't. You said it yourself "until something better comes along". And if it doesn't, and he's making $30,000 a year doing what he enjoys doing, then I'm o.k. with that. As long as he's able to support me and/or the family if something were to happen to my job. That's all I'm saying, knight_shadow.
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I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.
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01-20-2010, 11:14 PM
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I see what you're saying NOW, but your initial comment read like "Anyone who works in a position that's less than mine is unworthy." I was just pointing out that situations vary.
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Now you're putting words in my mouth, knight_shadow. I never said that or anything close to it. I said if he's working a minimum wage job and not doing anything to better himself, then I don't want to be with him. That's what I said.
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01-21-2010, 07:49 AM
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What about retirement? 401K? I mean, how can anyone take advantage of their 401K package if they're making pennies to live on?
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01-22-2010, 01:07 PM
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If someone is debt free and is making (for example) $30,000 as a manager at one of those places, I don't see how that's not stable.
If he has 324,234 credit cards and is a "sandwich artist," then I can see your point. Not everyone falls into that category, though.
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stable and comfortable are two different things. and two people can have two definitions of what comfortable is.
someone can be comfortable on 30k. i'm just not that someone.
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