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01-20-2010, 09:07 AM
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Cool.
ETA: The headline definitely shapes how you are willing and able to receive this story. The real story is that "women are marrying less educated and less well-off men." But, that's less positive than the current headline and it would cause sparks.
I want to remind women, particularly Black women, that something being "less likely" doesn't translate to it being "unlikely." Not everyone will get married and that includes those men and women who want to get married. And tons of people will settle. But, get over those sob stories and focus on YOU. YOU may have someone out there. If a college education and a certain class standing are AMONG the criteria for your mate, don't minimize your criteria just because you haven't found the person you're looking for YET.
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01-20-2010, 10:15 AM
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I guess women are doing what men used to do...marrying their trophy husbands! I am one of the women in that group that makes more than my husband (an order of magnitude more!) but it's not due to education...he's getting his fellowship and I just did a residency. When he's done, though, he'll still only make a little less than half of what I do. Women have come a long way in earning potential from the times when we could be fired just for getting married. I think that was the point of this article.
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01-20-2010, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AOII Angel
Women have come a long way in earning potential from the times when we could be fired just for getting married. I think that was the point of this article.
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Yes, if a within-gender analysis of getting fired just for getting married is the metric then women have definitely come a long way. I consider the real metric to be an across-gender analysis of how well our incomes and careers compare to men. In that regard, and in general, we have not come as far as we are led to believe. A household such as yours is the exception.
 I completely see why you consider that to be the point of article. I saw a different point. So, it's definitely in the eye of the beholder which is perfect for the NY Times.
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01-20-2010, 10:34 AM
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Yes, if a within-gender analysis of getting fired just for getting married is the metric then women have definitely come a long way. I consider the real metric to be an across-gender analysis of how well our incomes and careers compare to men. In that regard, and in general, we have not come as far as we are led to believe. A household such as yours is the exception.
 I completely see why you consider that to be the point of article. I saw a different point. So, it's definitely in the eye of the beholder which is perfect for the NY Times.
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I agree that we still have a long way to go. Women still make $0.77 on the dollar of what men make for the same job, but just a short 40 years ago, women with law degrees were expected to work as secretaries.
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01-20-2010, 10:47 AM
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Precisely, Angel.
And today women with law degrees can still be found getting coffee and doing office assistant things for the men in law offices.
Awwwww, women are such nurturers. It's part of our DNA.
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01-20-2010, 04:49 PM
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Precisely, Angel.
And today women with law degrees can still be found getting coffee and doing office assistant things for the men in law offices.
Awwwww, women are such nurturers. It's part of our DNA. 
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That goes both ways.
I'm the only one allowed to make the coffee 'round here. Everyone else does it wrong.
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01-20-2010, 04:56 PM
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That goes both ways.
I'm the only one allowed to make the coffee 'round here. Everyone else does it wrong.
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Yet, what happens more often than not is more important than the exceptions.
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01-20-2010, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
I want to remind women, particularly Black women, that something being "less likely" doesn't translate to it being "unlikely." Not everyone will get married and that includes those men and women who want to get married. And tons of people will settle. But, get over those sob stories and focus on YOU. YOU may have someone out there. If a college education and a certain class standing are AMONG the criteria for your mate, don't minimize your criteria just because you haven't found the person you're looking for YET.
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Thanks for posting this!
I am beyond tired of all the "Black women will never get married" articles. The NYT article really wasn't that way, so it was a refreshing change.
I'm okay with making more than my mate, but it has to depend on WHY I make more. He's a public interest lawyer? A schoolteacher? Okay, great! Unemployed? Working a low-wage, low-training job? No!
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01-20-2010, 04:25 PM
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I'm okay with making more than my mate, but it has to depend on WHY I make more. He's a public interest lawyer? A schoolteacher? Okay, great! Unemployed? Working a low-wage, low-training job? No!
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lol lol lol
This made me laugh so freaking hard.
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01-21-2010, 12:16 AM
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Cool.
I want to remind women, particularly Black women, that something being "less likely" doesn't translate to it being "unlikely." Not everyone will get married and that includes those men and women who want to get married. And tons of people will settle. But, get over those sob stories and focus on YOU. YOU may have someone out there. If a college education and a certain class standing are AMONG the criteria for your mate, don't minimize your criteria just because you haven't found the person you're looking for YET.
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Applause.
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01-24-2010, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
I want to remind women, particularly Black women, that something being "less likely" doesn't translate to it being "unlikely." Not everyone will get married and that includes those men and women who want to get married. And tons of people will settle. But, get over those sob stories and focus on YOU. YOU may have someone out there. If a college education and a certain class standing are AMONG the criteria for your mate, don't minimize your criteria just because you haven't found the person you're looking for YET.
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Speak the truth on that one. . . especially on that part in bold. I hear so many Black women doing just that. They just give up hope and settle. Then they are unhappy with what they get. smh
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01-24-2010, 09:26 AM
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Yeah, I would agree, but the thing about black chicks (in general), they don't really date outside of their race. Some do, but most don't. Most black dudes don't really have higher degrees or great jobs, at least not like black chicks do. So what happens is they either end up single or they settle. I think if more black chicks start dating outside of their race then they would have more and better options.
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01-24-2010, 05:50 PM
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Really what the eff people. Why is he banned AGAIN when he didn't do shit? That is pretty effing ridiculous. Some of you people really need to put your adult undies on and learn to deal with e-people who you don't agree with. Get over it. You might not like him, but not everyone likes you either.
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01-24-2010, 06:12 PM
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Really what the eff people. Why is he banned AGAIN when he didn't do shit? That is pretty effing ridiculous. Some of you people really need to put your adult undies on and learn to deal with e-people who you don't agree with. Get over it. You might not like him, but not everyone likes you either.
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Seriously. I saw nothing really bad with his latest post. He learned his lesson about personal attacks the first time. Unless he reverts to old habits, we should let him return.
yet MM gets away with being blatantly bigoted yet that is ok. I don't get it GC.
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01-24-2010, 09:05 PM
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Seriously. I saw nothing really bad with his latest post. He learned his lesson about personal attacks the first time. Unless he reverts to old habits, we should let him return.
yet MM gets away with being blatantly bigoted yet that is ok. I don't get it GC.
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Agreed. Xanthus hasn't repeated his behavior.. I could see giving him a second chance.
mm/bn is just despicable but comes back over and over with no consequence.
Personally? I'm just not responding to idiots anymore.
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