Do You Judge?

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Everyone judges. Everyone. Every-one. E-ver-y-one. There was never a human who hasn't judge. Even saying something like "...I'll just pray for you and that God takes care of it" is a judgment that the person needs to be prayed for and divinely taken care of.

Great point, DrPhil! You are right about that! It is like what was said in the other thread about how finding out someone is a member of a GLO makes you think, "Wow, they are somewhat like me." Do you find that when you find a person is a member of a GLO, specifically yours, you think, "Okay, I'll give them a chance." I'm not saying you don't give people a chance, initially. I'm just saying that you might listen a little more to what they say because maybe they attended a very good university, or they are a member of your GLO. Maybe they make tons of money or they are of a particular race/ religion.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

Do you find that when you find a person is a member of a GLO, specifically yours, you think, "Okay, I'll give them a chance."

When I am networking.

When I am in the mood for jokes, I will give that person a harder time through organizational satire.

[knight_shadow]

The fact that everyone has different life experiences and frames of reference forces us to judge people and events. As long as folks realize that others have their own points of view, I don't see a problem with it.

Originally Posted by als463

Great point, DrPhil! You are right about that! It is like what was said in the other thread about how finding out someone is a member of a GLO makes you think, "Wow, they are somewhat like me." Do you find that when you find a person is a member of a GLO, specifically yours, you think, "Okay, I'll give them a chance." I'm not saying you don't give people a chance, initially. I'm just saying that you might listen a little more to what they say because maybe they attended a very good university, or they are a member of your GLO. Maybe they make tons of money or they are of a particular race/ religion.

No. I sometimes felt that way when I first crossed, but I've since changed my stance. I'll give someone a chance if s/he says something that makes me want to listen. If you're an idiot who happens to share my letters, you're still an idiot

[als463]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The fact that everyone has different life experiences and frames of reference forces us to judge people and events. As long as folks realize that others have their own points of view, I don't see a problem with it.



No. I sometimes felt that way when I first crossed, but I've since changed my stance. I'll give someone a chance if s/he says something that makes me want to listen. If you're an idiot who happens to share my letters, you're still an idiot

Okay, fair enough. Do you find yourself drawn to certain types of people moreso than others? I'm not saying that not everyone judges. I guess I am just asking what it is that makes YOU judge people?

I talked about the Satanist thing, but I gave my reasons for it. Anyone else have certain circumstances they want to discuss.

Also-thanks to everyone for keeping this thread going. I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by als463

Okay, fair enough. Do you find yourself drawn to certain types of people moreso than others? I'm not saying that not everyone judges. I guess I am just asking what it is that makes YOU judge people?

I talked about the Satanist thing, but I gave my reasons for it. Anyone else have certain circumstances they want to discuss.

Also-thanks to everyone for keeping this thread going. I'm interested to hear what everyone has to say.

I'm a black man who grew up in the white suburbs, only to join a Latino frat. Needless to say, I'm drawn to many different types of people. Depending on the situation, I'll gravitate toward certain groups (ex. If 98% of the people at an event are uneducated, I'll try to seek out that 2%). That doesn't mean that I harbor any ill-will toward the others (I'm not going to walk into a room and shout "all you non-college grads raise your hands so I know not to talk to you!" I'll interact with people until they give me reasons not to) -- it's just easier to communicate with people that share my point of view.

I do enjoy discussion, though. If I had been approached by the individual with the Satanic "Bible" (if that's what it's even called), I wouldn't immediately shun him. I'm assuming there's a reason he brought up his beliefs. I'd take the opportunity to learn something and possibly inform him about my belief system.

[als463]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I'm a black man who grew up in the white suburbs, only to join a Latino frat. Needless to say, I'm drawn to many different types of people. Depending on the situation, I'll gravitate toward certain groups (ex. If 98% of the people at an event are uneducated, I'll try to seek out that 2%). That doesn't mean that I harbor any ill-will toward the others (I'm not going to walk into a room and shout "all you non-college grads raise your hands so I know not to talk to you!" I'll interact with people until they give me reasons not to) -- it's just easier to communicate with people that share my point of view.

I do enjoy discussion, though. If I had been approached by the individual with the Satanic "Bible" (if that's what it's even called), I wouldn't immediately shun him. I'm assuming there's a reason he brought up his beliefs. I'd take the opportunity to learn something and possibly inform him about my belief system.

I actually laughed out loud (thank you, I needed that) from this. That is too funny. I agree. I'm not saying you intentionally walk into a room and say, "Uneducated need not apply to be my friend." I'm just saying that you find yourself drawn to people like you.

As far as the satan bible goes, I guess I was more freaked out than anything. Part of me thinks it may be interesting to read it (just to read it), but I'm afraid I would burn in hell. No thanks, not worth it.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by als463

I actually laughed out loud (thank you, I needed that) from this. That is too funny. I agree. I'm not saying you intentionally walk into a room and say, "Uneducated need not apply to be my friend." I'm just saying that you find yourself drawn to people like you.

As far as the satan bible goes, I guess I was more freaked out than anything. Part of me thinks it may be interesting to read it (just to read it), but I'm afraid I would burn in hell. No thanks, not worth it.

I'm not sure how long you knew that guy. If you'd known him for a while and built a friendship before he revealed his beliefs, would you have stopped talking to him?

[als463]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I'm not sure how long you knew that guy. If you'd known him for a while and built a friendship before he revealed his beliefs, would you have stopped talking to him?

Hmmmm...that is a good question. I would have to say, maybe. I only knew him a little. He was in my Army tech. school with me. I didn't really know him that well. I will say that I dated a guy my Freshman year in college who I later found out was an Atheist. I tried to get over it. I just couldn't do it. He was so pissed that I broke up with him for that reason. I just couldn't date him.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by als463

I talked about the Satanist thing, but I gave my reasons for it. Anyone else have certain circumstances they want to discuss.

I will be honest here. I don't see anything wrong with you choosing not to associate yourself with someone like that. I don't see that as judging. As a Christian I do not wish to associate with people who worship satan. It has nothing to do with being judgmental. There are spiritual reasons why i wouldn't associate with someone like that and I don't think you should offer excuses or reasons for it. It is what it is.

I judge people although I try not to. However, I also think that people use the term "judging" too loosely. For instance when I discuss how homosexuality is a sin based on what I have read in the Bible, that is not judgment. Yet people categorize it as being so. Judgment in relation to that would be saying that a homosexual person is going to hell.

Also there are times when I size people up based on their behavior, organizations they belong to, or things like that. I sometimes use that to decide whether I should or should not allow someone into my inner circle or whether I should keep my distance. I consider that more of a discernment thing and useful for protecting myself from friendships with people who may wish me harm.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't see that as judging. As a Christian I do not wish to associate with people who worship satan. It has nothing to do with being judgmental.

Really?

I mean, REALLY?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Really?

I mean, REALLY?

I wouldn't expect you to understand that honestly.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

For instance when I discuss how homosexuality is a sin based on what I have read in the Bible, that is not judgment. Yet people categorize it as being so.

Isn't your interpretation a judgment?

As for me, I definitely judge...everyone judges on some topic, whether it be politics, religion, education, personal hygiene, etc.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Isn't your interpretation a judgment?

It isn't an interpretation if you are stating it as it is written. So no, it isn't an interpretation.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

It isn't an interpretation if you are stating it as it is written. So no, it isn't an interpretation.

The Bible itself is an interpretation and reading it requires interpreting it because not everyone considers the entire Bible as a literal step-by-step "how to" of Christianity and life. I certainly don't.

Seriously, deepimpact2, are you claiming that all Christians gain the same meanings when they read the Bible? I bet that you and I interpret the Bible differently. Do you assume that your interpretation is the literal and accurate one? LOL