Amanda Knox convicted...

[federico]

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

Very well said, Kevin.

This case reminded me how thankful I am for the American legal system.

Well, then try to rember that the idea of "legal system" itself was created in rome (a lots of legal terms are still in latin) and be thankful to our fathers too.

Guys, a fair trial is something that all democracies try to have, but is not easy.And the media are a big problem for the justice everywhere , not just in italy. Just like the stupid politicians (like cantwell) are a big problem for the friendship among countries.

And italy and america are really two friend countries, that is why many of the speeches a lot of americans are doing about this are just stupid.

Anyway, if you really want to know, what we really think in italy now is:"If they really want the evil bitch back, they can have her!!!".

But then we rember of meredith.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by federico

Well, then try to rember that the idea of "legal system" itself was created in rome (a lots of legal terms are still in latin) and be thankful to our fathers too.

Guys, a fair trial is something that all democracies try to have, but is not easy.And the media are a big problem for the justice everywhere , not just in italy. Just like the stupid politicians (like cantwell) are a big problem for the friendship among countries.

And italy and america are really two friend countries, that is why many of the speeches a lot of americans are doing about this are just stupid.

Anyway, if you really want to know, what we really think in italy now is:"If they really want the evil bitch back, they can have her!!!".

But then we rember of meredith.

Um ok, thanks for the reminder. Stop being so defensive and taking everything personally. No one is bashing Italy.

[federico]

No? But your statements mean that we are giving 26 years to a girl because we resent the U.S. for the deaths of Calipari and of the italians of the gondola (which is so not true, we resent the pilot not the u.s., and we know that friendly fire kills) and we have a third world legal system that is not nearly as good as yours. What is this???


My point is that you need to read more in order to understand why the judges and prosecution decided the way they did.
Of course, the mistakes happen quite often. But most of your opinions are obviously based on the lack of information relevant to the case. We are not all that stupid to be blind and not see what you see. But we also know OTHER THINGS, of which you're not informed.You need to read more in order to understand why the judges and prosecution decided the way they did.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by federico

No? But your statements mean that we are giving 26 years to a girl because we 1 resent the U.S. for the deaths of Calipari and of the italians of the gondola (which is so not true, we hate the pilot not the u.s., and we know that friendly fire kills) and we have a third world legal system that is not nearly as good as yours. What is this???


My poit is that you need to read more in order to understand why the judges and prosecution decided the way they did.
Of course, the mistakes happen quite often. But most of your opinions are obviously based on the lack of information relevant to the case. We are not all that stupid to be blind and not see what you see. But we also know OTHER THINGS, of which you're not informed.You need to read more in order to understand why the judges and prosecution decided the way they did.
Of course, the mistakes happen quite often. But your opinion is obviously based on the lack of information relevant to the case. They are not all that stupid to be blind and not see what you see. But they also see OTHER THINGS, of which you're not informed.

What the hell are you talking about? Which one of my statements would that be? Being thankful for the American legal system is not the equivalent of saying Italy has a third world legal system.

My only other statement in this thread was that I think you should stop taking things personally and getting unnecessarily defensive. And, especially after reading the rambling post of yours I quoted, I stand by that.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by federico

Well, then try to rember that the idea of "legal system" itself was created in rome (a lots of legal terms are still in latin) and be thankful to our fathers too.

Guys, a fair trial is something that all democracies try to have, but is not easy.And the media are a big problem for the justice everywhere , not just in italy. Just like the stupid politicians (like cantwell) are a big problem for the friendship among countries.

And italy and america are really two friend countries, that is why many of the speeches a lot of americans are doing about this are just stupid.

Anyway, if you really want to know, what we really think in italy now is:"If they really want the evil bitch back, they can have her!!!".

But then we rember of meredith.

Okay if we (Italy and America) are such "friends" why are you jumping down our throats because we don't agree with Italy's pennial system, how the courts are run or what prosecuters can say about a defendent?

Basically your implying, "oh we can all be friends, but you can't say anything bad about our country".

I'm sorry no country is perfect. I may be an American, but the United States is FAR from perfect (look at the major recession we are in right now).

Also how does it help our "friendship" by saying that we can have "the evil bitch back". Nice. If you "Italians" don't want the "evil bitch" there, why the hell did you convict her? Oh wait, you don't know because you didn't sit on the trail, as none of us did. You are, like all of us are, making your assumptions based on what the news is reporting. Yet, I'm sure our news is reporting slightly different than Italian news. (I say this because it's probably true, the media totally filters things).

I never once said in my original post that I was "anti-Italy" and if you got that assumption, I am sorry. But I stand by my opinion that I think your legal system needs some work and that there are some "issues" within it that need to be worked out. Now, it's not to say that ours is perfect (again going back to that), because it's not.

You mentioned OJ Simpson in a previous post, as for him, yes, I think the man is guilty as sin. He got away with murder (IMPO). The thing is, that jury (which I was not on, all I heard was what was reported via the news), made their decision based on the evidence presented to them. Obviously, the defense was able to "poke enough holes" in the prosecutors theories to leave enough reasonable doubt in their minds and they therefore didn't convict.

The whole thing is, like Kevin said earlier, she deserved a fair trial. I feel that no matter where you are and what citizenship you are, you deserve a fair trail. I don't think evidence should be admitted that isn't conclusive. I don't think bashing of a defendent should be allowed. But that is just my opinion. Doesn't mean that the world is going to change, because it won't. But I can still have my opinion.