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12-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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Out of the house by Sunday? Ouch!!!
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12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
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Out of the house by Sunday? Ouch!!!
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Yeah, that sucks especially since it's about to be finals week on Wednesday.
No good. I'll miss those guys.
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12-13-2009, 04:21 AM
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A little bit of follow up on this story:
Nationals is moving into their house as well as the current pledges. They won't be able to become a full-blown chapter until their senior years.
Some may see this as a good thing. It is an absolutely terrible idea (as long as they are able to rent the house out to another fraternity...which I believe would be possible). The pledges will have no idea how to rush University of Arkansas fraternity men and the Phi Delt nationals will be a mess, as most nationals are. The reputation will go downhill, which is unfortunate for a fraternity who had a great deal of good reputation.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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12-13-2009, 01:19 PM
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Elephant Walk:A little bit of follow up on this story:
Nationals is moving into their house as well as the current pledges. They won't be able to become a full-blown chapter until their senior years.
When you say National is moving into their house, do you mean someone from their National staff or a member(s) of the chapter's Alumni Board/ House Corp.?
Also, if current pledges, by their senior year (probably by 2012/2013) would be able to become a full-blown chapter, what status are they now... a colony working toward re-chartering?
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12-13-2009, 05:18 PM
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When you say National is moving into their house, do you mean someone from their National staff or a member(s) of the chapter's Alumni Board/ House Corp.?
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From what I understand, it will be someone from their national staff. Or several people. I could be wrong on this, but that's my understanding. Now, I would much prefer the Alumni Board but I don't think that's the case.
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Also, if current pledges, by their senior year (probably by 2012/2013) would be able to become a full-blown chapter, what status are they now... a colony working toward re-chartering?
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That's my understanding as well, colony working towards recharter.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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12-13-2009, 07:16 PM
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Elephant Walk:From what I understand, it will be someone from their national staff. Or several people. I could be wrong on this, but that's my understanding. Now, I would much prefer the Alumni Board but I don't think that's the case.
This could be a positive direction for them (current pledges). They will certainly receive the proper training and guidance needed by professional member(s) of their National to restore their chapter back to it's glory days at UA. I can remember my years serving as expansion/development consultant, I had a similar project to reviving a once large chapter with a long history tied to the University. All you would need is a core base group of talented, good quality men, what I call the "HEART" of the colony, dedicated Alumni, and the support from both the National Staff and Expansion Team, and even sometimes University Adminstrators/Officials, and everything will fall into place.
I wish them the best of luck!!!!! 
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12-13-2009, 08:56 PM
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This could be a positive direction for them (current pledges). They will certainly receive the proper training and guidance needed by professional member(s) of their National to restore their chapter back to it's glory days at UA.
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Their glory days were right before they got kicked off by Nationals.
I know your line of thinking and I understand it. But there's a combination of three things which make this not good for their recruitment and longstanding tradition of pledging some of the best the University has to offer.
a) The likelihood of the Nationals not being from an SEC school with no understanding of SEC rush and the typical guy the fraternities are looking for. Likewise, not being from the South which could be a shot across the bow to start with. Nationals likes to send their weirdest Yankees whenever they come around, I would be very surprised if they do anything but that.
b) The unfamiliarity with the Rush process on the part of the pledges and not have been completely ingrained in UA fraternity culture.
c) the lack of alcohol as a result of nationals coming. That alone will probably kill their rush of the guys that Phi Delt has been having for quite sometime.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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