kappa sigma at fgcu?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by ryquis

From my understanding, they are close to becoming a chapter. I do understand why the school may have an issue. I was told that the original 2 guys who started Kappa Sigma's Fort Myers colony were rude to the IFC at FGCU. That was a big mistake. Those men are no longer with the fraternity because they were kicked out. This grudge should no longer be held. Despite me not being a Kappa Sig, nor a student at FGCU I know unjust treatment when I see it. This hits close to home because I have family members that are Kappa Sigs. I am just proud to see a fraternity willing to stand up to a school and the IFC and not take no for an answer. I am pleased that these fine young men are dedicated for a cause. I do not know any of them, but their story is truly remarkable. The school might call them rebels, but I call them dedicated young men who are willing to stand up for what they believe in. They should not have to wait to be members a fraternity. That is why they colonized off campus. My brother is a Kappa Sig at North Florida and my cousin is a Kappa Sig at Johnson and Wales in Miami, so they inform me about what is occuring. From what I hear, FGCU had better let them on campus soon. Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power. They are not to be messed with. I have read about a lot of controversy happening at FGCU over the years. Trust me. FGCU can't afford any more bad publicity.

What exactly can Kappa Sigma do if FSGU refuses to recognize them?

[jennyj87]

Originally Posted by ryquis

From what I hear, FGCU had better let them on campus soon. Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power. They are not to be messed with. I have read about a lot of controversy happening at FGCU over the years. Trust me. FGCU can't afford any more bad publicity.

Okay sure. I want a frat coming on my campus that threatens us. That sure is helping the cause.
FGCU is one of the fastest growing schools in the country, if not the fastest. I'm sure we'll be fine if IFC doesn't allow Kappa Sigma on campus.

I was orginally going to talk about how SigEp was an underground fraternity for a couple years and then was allowed back on campus, but forget that now.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by jennyj87

This is why I would not like to have them on my campus. A statement like that.
FGCU is one of the fastest growing schools in the country, if not the fastest. I'm sure we'll be fine if IFC doesn't allow Kappa Sigma on campus.

I was orginally going to talk about how SigEp was an underground fraternity for a couple years and then was allowed back on campus, but forget that now.

I'm not sure I would let an anonymous person on the internet, who isn't even a member of Kappa Sigma, have such a strong influence on my opinion of the organization, if I were you. But, to each their own, I suppose.

[rex in effect]

Originally Posted by jennyj87

This is why I would not like to have them on my campus. A statement like that.
FGCU is one of the fastest growing schools in the country, if not the fastest. I'm sure we'll be fine if IFC doesn't allow Kappa Sigma on campus.

I was orginally going to talk about how SigEp was an underground fraternity for a couple years and then was allowed back on campus, but forget that now.

To clear all the air, do not listen to ryquis. I am a Kappa Sig at UCF. I am very aware of the situation with Kappa Sigma at FGCU. What happened was, students approached FGCU about starting Kappa Sigma. FGCU's IFC was not willing to expand for a legit reason. They had just let Sigma Chi on campus. The students instead decided to go straight to Kappa Sigma's national headquarters and asked to start. Nationals approved. Thus Kappa Sigma was colonized as the Fort Myers,FL colony. The conflict got worse when the original grandmaster of Kappa Sigma decided to be rude to FGCU's IFC. That was a big mistake. You do not bite the hand that feeds. But, this guy is no longer a part of the colony because the members voted him out. He was thus depledged and kicked out of the colony. The Kappa Sigma colony is getting to better terms with FGCU and the IFC. The colony has new leadership and is respectful to the IFC and FGCU. They are doing lots of philanthropy and they are following IFC rules despite not being recognized by campus yet. I see this conflict being resolved soon and them being let on campus. Of the original 25 that started the colony, only 6 remain. They have recruited a much better quality of young men who are taking the colony into a better direction. They are close to becoming a chapter. But, I believe they are willing to wait to be let on campus before chartering. Everything is going to be fine. Its just a matter of time. The reason they are allowed to colonize and charter off campus is because Kappa Sigma, along with Phi Delta Theta, and Phi Sigma Kappa broke away from the IFC nationally(North-American Interfraternity Conference) back in 2002. Thus they do not have to be on a campus to govern. But, I do see everything getting cleared up soon and Kappa Sigma being let on to FGCU's campus. Everything is going to be all right.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by ryquis

Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power. They are not to be messed with.

LOL -- Power to do what?

I thought you were a FIJI? Stop swinging on Kappa Sig's nuts.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by ryquis

From what I hear, FGCU had better let them on campus soon. Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power. They are not to be messed with. I have read about a lot of controversy happening at FGCU over the years. Trust me. FGCU can't afford any more bad publicity.

Okay, I'm sorry, but that made me laugh. FGCU "had better let them on campus soon." Why? Can you state at least one good, clear reason?
"Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power." And? What will Kappa Sigma do? Get the Florida State Legislature to revoke FGCU's ability to grant diplomas? Lose their credentials?

What was my prior statement? Oh, yes: That's not how it works.

Most people couldn't give a crap on a cracker if Kappa Sigma charters at FGCU or not. You are taking this way to serious and giving Kappa Sigma national way too much power.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Um hate to break it to you, but quite a few inter/national organizations require recognition from the school.

[FSUZeta]

good luck with your finals, jenny.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Grandmaster is a term used to mean president of the local chapter IIRC.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Grandmaster is a term used to mean president of the local chapter IIRC.

Oh, ok. Then that I can see.

TSteven: That was my "Pollyanna post" for the day. Bwah.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by 33girl

TSteven: That was my "Pollyanna post" for the day. Bwah.

You are allowed one. I just wasn't sure if this was you one or I had missed it.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Ah ok. So NIC doesn't even require school recognition? I really need to study NIC bylaws more.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Ah ok. So NIC doesn't even require school recognition? I really need to study NIC bylaws more.

Have at it. I'm going to review too.

BY-LAWS OF THE NORTH-AMERICAN INTERFRATERNITY CONFERENCE (Revised April 20, 2009)

[knight_shadow]

IIRC, that clause states that IFC can't keep members out, but the campus can.

If State University recognizes an NIC group and it petitions for membership in IFC, they must allow the group to join.

[DEVODUDE]

knight_shadow;1873719....IIRC, that clause states that IFC can't keep members out, but the campus can.

If State University recognizes an NIC group and it petitions for membership in IFC, they must allow the group to join.

OK, so how would that work for a fraternity that is not a member of the NIC??? Can they (fraternity) apply for university recognition as an independent National Fraternity and be placed in the same category with Service & Professional Fraternities/Societies???