2012

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by OTW

What she said. Special effects were EXCELLENT.

I couldn't help get a little frustrated while watching the movie because the whole time I was thinking that this movie's just fueling the mass hysteria that'll take place as 12/21/12 gets closer. I don't know if anyone saw the History Channel special about 2012 last week...I just don't buy it.

I saw it. ehh.

[cheerfulgreek]

I'm seeing it this Saturday. I'm SO excited about it because a lot of people at school have been saying how good it was. The world ending as we know it in the year 2012? I don't buy that at all. I don't buy it because the Earth is forever changing and based on its history, the major changes took place in million year cycles. It's all based on time periods, like the Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretacious, Early and Late Tertiary, etc etc etc. The last major change took place during the Tertiary period which was about 25 million years ago, and still, now, everything looks similar with very little change. I mean, I know a million years isn't much on a geological time scale, it's just that picking the year 2012 for all of this to take place doesn't add up to me, ya know? However, I do expect some things to change because change is always happening...a few rivers and seas change, and continents only move maybe about 60 miles or so. I mean, the difference is hardly noticable. I honestly think the Earth will look about the same (with minor changes) even when we reach the calender year million. And I'm leaving out a polar icecap or two, and I'm also discounting human macro-intervention. Other than that, I think Earth will look the same IMHO. The year 2012 doesn't even come close.

Oh, but if the numbers or time periods don't add up, then I know I'm going to hate it. I hope it's realistic as in believable based on history, and not all "Hollywood" made up Disney stuff.

[ASUADPi]

I know this is about the movie, but since this is the "reason" behind the disasters in the movie, my question is why would all the planets aligning (lets face it would only be temporary, just like an eclipse) "destroy the earth"? Why would nothing happen to the other planets?

[srmom]

^^^ Because only on Earth does man exist, and according to Hollywood producers, man is evil and deserves to be destroyed.

As for the Mayans or the Incans or whoever thought this was it, I guess they had to find some way to end the world. If they're right, then, see you in the next world!!

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Why would nothing happen to the other planets?

The gravity effects would have some effect on the other planets too. The bigger the planet the stronger its gravitational pull. It's actually worse on the other planets. Much worse, and I'm just speaking of climate changes, the weather, temperature, etc. alone.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

They have, but they're all "supposedly" lining up with the center of the Milky Way. According to various New Age reinterpretations and speculation about the Mayans, as well as those looking to make a quick buck, that's going to cause a disaster. We shall see.

Fixed it for you.

Originally Posted by epchick

I still think the reason the Mayan Calendar ended in 2012 was cause they were lazy! lmao. Or it was one of those where they thought 2012 was a good number, cause shoot that was a loooong time away for them.

The Mayans weren't aware of the Gregorian Calendar when they developed their own calendars, so they didn't know the year 2012 from Columbus.

FWIW, the Mayans traditionally used two calendars -- the Calendar Round (which is still used by some) and the Long Count Calendar (which hasn't been used in a long time). The Long Count calendar divided time into a variety of units -- 20 days made a uinal, 18 uinals made a tun, 20 tuns made a k'atun, and 20 k'atuns made up a b'ak'tun. Counting from the supposed date of creation, we are now in the 13th b'ak'tun, which will end in December 2012.

It is not at all clear what significance, if any, the Mayans attached to the end of the 13th b'ak'tun. Only a few old Mayan writings seem to associate it with major change of some sort.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Here's a pretty cool history channel documentary about it. It's kinda silly and I don't agree with it, but it's still pretty cool to watch, even though it's just man wanting to be God.

I love the History Channel and this was the same documentary I watched.

The History Channel can be entertaining, but it's definitely not a source I'd rely on when it comes to something like this. The sensationalism and science fiction angles are going to win out over actual history and scholarship every time, I'm afraid.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Fixed it for you.

The History Channel can be entertaining, but it's definitely not a source I'd rely on when it comes to something like this. The sensationalism and science fiction angles are going to win out over actual history and scholarship every time, I'm afraid.

lol
Thanks "Mr. Fix it guy."

And yes, these are all great points. I agree.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I missed it this weekend, but I plan on seeing it next weekend. I keep hearing from people that it's an awesome movie.

I should add, my fave parts were:

• Special effects
• Woody Harrelson
• LA sank
• the end. *edited*

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

the end. ::::::

Edited out

[cheerfulgreek]

A complete waste of time and money.

[risingstar]

This whole 2012 thing is so very interesting. As I started researching to at least "try" to see what all the fuss was about, I ran into so much! From the Earth being destroyed to aliens coming to take over. LOL. It is interesting to see all of the different views everyone has on this topic. I did watch the documentary on the History Channel as well. I cannot wait to see the movie today.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

A complete waste of time and money.

I TOLD you so.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Thanks so much for giving away the ending.

Opps.. Sorry
Ok, so I edited my response.. but I didn't say HOW it ended..

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

I should add, my fave parts were:

• Special effects
• Woody Harrelson
• LA sank
• the end. *edited*

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

I TOLD you so.

lol
you did, and I should have listened to you. It was SO bad that if I would've been there by myself, I would have walked out during the really bad limo "obstacle course" part. Even "Ivan Drago" the cute Russian pilot, died.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

Opps.. Sorry
Ok, so I edited my response.. but I didn't say HOW it ended..

S'okay.