Calm in the Face of Adversity - A Recruitment Advisor's Spring 2010 Story....

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by Hopeful4Spring

The PNMs will be allowed to go to all Preferences if they choose. The sororities will release just before pref and the PNMs will be able to pick which Pref's they attend. These will have formal start and finish times.

Wait. PNMs can choose which prefs to go to, but yet the sororities will release PNMs just before pref? If Patty PNM wants to go to ABC, she can still choose to go even if ABC cuts her just before pref? This makes no sense.

[Hopeful4Spring]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Wait. PNMs can choose which prefs to go to, but yet the sororities will release PNMs just before pref? If Patty PNM wants to go to ABC, she can still choose to go even if ABC cuts her just before pref? This makes no sense.

They can attend all Pref's as long as they weren't released after the first two days of recruitment. It is possible for Patty PNM to be invited to all Prefs. If Patty PNM wants to attend all Prefs she can. If Patty PNM is invited to 2 Prefs...she can decide to attend both or one of those Prefs.

[Denise_DPhiE]

I'm sorry - maybe I am too old but how the hell is this a recruitment thread if A) there is no actual PNM or B) there is no full list of orgs to see how things go?

Why would Hopeful have any interest in posting this? Sounds fishy.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Fleur de Lis

This is the strangest recruitment format I've ever heard of.

I have heard of recruitment styles similar to this, but I think the wording of how Pref works is what's making this confusing.

Originally Posted by Hopeful4Spring

They can attend all Pref's as long as they weren't released after the first two days of recruitment. It is possible for Patty PNM to be invited to all Prefs. If Patty PNM wants to attend all Prefs she can. If Patty PNM is invited to 2 Prefs...she can decide to attend both or one of those Prefs.

Are you saying IF SHE'S INVITED TO ALL PREFS and wants to attend all Prefs, she can? If so, that would make sense in basically any recruitment scenario. If, on the other hand, you're saying a PNM can attend a pref event she wasn't invited to, that doesn't sound logical and defeats the purpose of invites.

[33girl]

A hundred thousand years ago, I went through structured informal recruitment. We had meet the greeks, theme party, pref party and bid day. The only one you had to get invited back to was pref. And yes, you could go to all the ones you got invited to (I was invited to 5, went to 5). I didn't go to ABC's pref because I wasn't invited, and I didn't go to XYZ's because I didn't go to their theme round so of course they didn't invite me.

HOWEVER, this made sense because there was only one round before them (I don't count Meet the Greeks as a round). I fail to see the point of having two different rounds for the PNMs to attend and not cutting until pref - rush should be progressive.

[LucyKKG]

Originally Posted by 33girl

HOWEVER, this made sense because there was only one round before them (I don't count Meet the Greeks as a round). I fail to see the point of having two different rounds for the PNMs to attend and not cutting until pref - rush should be progressive.

I think it depends on the school. If there are only 2 Panhellenic chapters at a particular school (like mine), what would be the point of cutting anyone before pref?

[Hopeful4Spring]

The goal for the campus this year was to move away from Fully Structured Recruitment. Since the Panhellenic system has done poorly over the last few years they moved away from the Formal Structure this is what we're faced with. Its completely new to our campus and as we speak they are still working out some of the other details other than the structure, schedule and format.

If anyone has worked with a similar structure, I would love to hear about it. Its new to us and from what I can gather isn't used as frequently. All of the organizations are worried about this transition and in January we will see if it was the right change for us!

Now for those inquiring let me present the other organizations based on campus. Occasionally we encounter women who pref with us and the following two, but not as frequently as Rubies or Emeralds.

Amethyst: This organization is seem as a super desirable sorority. Everything about them is "cute". They compete mostly with the Sapphires during recruitment. This chapter reaches total each semester
Sapphire:this organization is viewed also as super desirable. They often are your cut-throat competitors for Greek Week and Homecoming Queens. Most women who attend this pref will also attend Amethysts Pref. This group usually stays at chapter total

[Hopeful4Spring]

Originally Posted by 33girl

HOWEVER, this made sense because there was only one round before them (I don't count Meet the Greeks as a round). I fail to see the point of having two different rounds for the PNMs to attend and not cutting until pref - rush should be progressive.

They are also allowing PNMs to register for recruitment up until the evening before Philanthropy Day. If they do register late they will have to meet all of the organizations on Philanthropy Day. The two days is to give them plenty of time to visit all houses before Pref. Since they will be allowed to come and go to houses as they please, this gives them the time so that should they stay at one house for 2 hours, they still have time to make all of their rounds to all the other houses.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Hopeful4Spring

They are also allowing PNMs to register for recruitment up until the evening before Philanthropy Day. If they do register late they will have to meet all of the organizations on Philanthropy Day. The two days is to give them plenty of time to visit all houses before Pref. Since they will be allowed to come and go to houses as they please, this gives them the time so that should they stay at one house for 2 hours, they still have time to make all of their rounds to all the other houses.

No, no, NO!!!

If they have two days to visit all the houses at leisure - which I have heard of schools doing - that should count as one round and the programming should be the same. It should NOT be broken down into Sisterhood Day and Philanthropy Day. Two different parties implies there is some sort of progression and "moving onward." This is going to confuse the crap out of the rushees.

I still have my doubts about this whole deal because I can't imagine a Greek advisor or Panhel area advisor who would be tweaked enough to think this up.

[Hopeful4Spring]

Originally Posted by 33girl

No, no, NO!!!

If they have two days to visit all the houses at leisure - which I have heard of schools doing - that should count as one round and the programming should be the same. It should NOT be broken down into Sisterhood Day and Philanthropy Day. Two different parties implies there is some sort of progression and "moving onward." This is going to confuse the crap out of the rushees.

I still have my doubts about this whole deal because I can't imagine a Greek advisor or Panhel area advisor who would be tweaked enough to think this up.

Greek Advisor = Brand New and this system is apparently what she used as an undergrad...

Can you be my Panhel Area Advisor...

[Hopeful4Spring]

I reworded this a few posts down.

It is POSSIBLE that she could attend all Prefs if she is not released after the first two days.

If she is invited to all Prefs she may attend or decide to cut at that point but PNMs are not forced to cut any sororities if they choose not to do so

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I have heard of recruitment styles similar to this, but I think the wording of how Pref works is what's making this confusing.



Are you saying IF SHE'S INVITED TO ALL PREFS and wants to attend all Prefs, she can? If so, that would make sense in basically any recruitment scenario. If, on the other hand, you're saying a PNM can attend a pref event she wasn't invited to, that doesn't sound logical and defeats the purpose of invites.