6-year-old expelled over Cub Scout utensil

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't recall saying it WAS a due process analysis.

You said:

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

And I fail to see how his 14th Amendment due process rights were violated. It was a school policy. He violated it. So what if he is six? They knew that 6 yr olds would be included in the group affected by the policy.

Usually, when someone makes a statement ("I fail to see how his 14th Amendment due process rights were violated.") and then immediately gives reasons ("It was a school policy. He violated it. So what if he is six? They knew that 6 yr olds would be included in the group affected by the policy."), you can reliably predict that people are going to interpret the reasons you gave as your reasons for the statement -- i.e., the reasons you don't think 14th Amendment rights were not violated, i.e., your analysis.

But go ahead. Tell me I'm twisting what you said, because that's the way it always goes.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

You said:
Usually, when someone makes a statement ("I fail to see how his 14th Amendment due process rights were violated.") and then immediately gives reasons ("It was a school policy. He violated it. So what if he is six? They knew that 6 yr olds would be included in the group affected by the policy."), you can reliably predict that people are going to interpret the reasons you gave as your reasons for the statement -- i.e., the reasons you don't think 14th Amendment rights were not violated, i.e., your analysis.

But go ahead. Tell me I'm twisting what you said, because that's the way it always goes.

You know folks...I am just an average Joe here, legal jargon aside...but back to what ForeverRoses and I were alluding to earlier...whatever happened to simply calling the parents to the school and having a private discussion with the admin and said parents and K.I.M?

Have we become that paranoid a society that we have to get the law involved for everything?

Times like this (not to mention the fact the we need crash helmets for kids with Big Wheels) is why I DON'T want kids.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You know folks...I am just an average Joe here, legal jargon aside...but back to what ForeverRoses and I were alluding to earlier...whatever happened to simply calling the parents to the school and having a private discussion with the admin and said parents and K.I.M?

Exactly.

The good thing is that overreacting isn't standard protocol across school systems and schools. There are schools that still call the parents FIRST whether the kid is 6 or 16.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You know folks...I am just an average Joe here, legal jargon aside...but back to what ForeverRoses and I were alluding to earlier...whatever happened to simply calling the parents to the school and having a private discussion with the admin and said parents and K.I.M?

Have we become that paranoid a society that we have to get the law involved for everything?

Times like this (not to mention the fact the we need crash helmets for kids with Big Wheels) is why I DON'T want kids.

Columbine happened. White upper middle class kids killed white upper middle class kids and all of a sudden, zero tolerance everywhere.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Columbine happened. White upper middle class kids killed white upper middle class kids and all of a sudden, zero tolerance everywhere.

It was going on before Columbine...Columbine just magnified the problem.

but your point is understood all the same...

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

It was going on before Columbine...Columbine just magnified the problem.

but your point is understood all the same...

Yeah, the point is that mainstream America didn't care until it was middle class white kids. The nonwhite and/or poor kids can kill themselves all they want to.