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Old 10-15-2009, 12:14 AM
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Normally, I would agree that showing a "cute" white kid who was excited about just joining the Cub Scouts would get people's hearts flowing and activate the "poor little white kid" syndrome. That's both a race and age (and possibly social class, assuming he was middle to upper class) dynamic.

But, here is another instance where context matters. Context involves speaking with parents and checking the student's records to see what was going on here. Zero tolerance policies are there to protect the student body and to relieve the administrators from guilt or perceived responsibility. Treat them all like potential delinquents just in case. Better safe than sorry. I understand it but disagree with it as a fool proof way of dealing with everything.

If deepimpact2 taught at a school where 6 year olds were known to be in gangs then...NO SHIT...what they bring from their gang interactions won't be received as just a spoon-knife-fork camping device. Context.
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:27 AM
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Normally, I would agree that showing a "cute" white kid who was excited about just joining the Cub Scouts would get people's hearts flowing and activate the "poor little white kid" syndrome. That's both a race and age (and possibly social class, assuming he was middle to upper class) dynamic.

But, here is another instance where context matters. Context involves speaking with parents and checking the student's records to see what was going on here. Zero tolerance policies are there to protect the student body and to relieve the administrators from guilt or perceived responsibility. Treat them all like potential delinquents just in case. Better safe than sorry. I understand it but disagree with it as a fool proof way of dealing with everything.

If deepimpact2 taught at a school where 6 year olds were known to be in gangs then...NO SHIT...what they bring from their gang interactions won't be received as just a spoon-knife-fork camping device. Context.
Actually, your thought process might be "brilliant" except for one tiny issue: IT IS STILL A KNIFE!!!!!!! Context doesn't have a thing to do with it. Try that context argument with a parent whose child just got sliced by a knife. See exactly how far you get with it.

Some of you need to stop trying to be so contrary and look at it from the angle of parents whose children are injured because of other kids bringing weapons to school. It is quite easy to get on a high horse until it happens to your own child. Then? Not so much.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:19 PM
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Really? It's still a knife? You mean, it didn't magically transform into a unicorn because of the context? That sucks.

Years ago, my friend mistakenly left her butter knife that she uses to slice bagels at work in her bag as she went to the airport. It was detected by the powers that be. Instead of detaining her as a potential terrorist and damning her to hell, the airport authorities used their discretion. They took the object and gave her a stern talking to/warning that scared the shit out of her. Then sent her on her way. Message.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:29 PM
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Really? It's still a knife? You mean, it didn't magically transform into a unicorn because of the context? That sucks.

Years ago, my friend mistakenly left her butter knife that she uses to slice bagels at work in her bag as she went to the airport. It was detected by the powers that be. Instead of detaining her as a potential terrorist and damning her to hell, the airport authorities used their discretion. They took the object and gave her a stern talking to/warning that scared the shit out of her. Then sent her on her way. Message.
And?

Schools have different liability concerns.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:30 PM
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And?

Schools have different liability concerns.
And shut up.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:39 PM
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And shut up.
1. Have I shut up yet when you "command" that I do so? Um no.
2. Your response speaks volumes. You don't know what the heck you are talking about and to compensate you resort to "shut up" with no additional comeback. How witty and original.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:45 PM
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1. Have I shut up yet when you "command" that I do so? Um no.
2. Your response speaks volumes. You don't know what the heck you are talking about and to compensate you resort to "shut up" with no additional comeback. How witty and original.
1. Shut up.
2. Do you know how ironic this is? As with every other thread you participate in, things are cool until you get butthurt and annoying. You're much more stupiderererer than any other GC thread hijacker. LOL.
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