Alabama Recruitment

[Regina Filangie]

Originally Posted by littleowl33

Like the southern girls who were groomed for elite groups at SEC rushes since they were children, I was groomed for "elite" colleges since I was little.

I think this is what seems offensive. This statement sounds like the silly little southern girls just care about joining a sorority and not academics.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Regina Filangie

I think this is what seems offensive. This statement sounds like the silly little southern girls just care about joining a sorority and not academics.

But when we hear the stories of women who leave college when they don't get a bid to the chapter they want, it appears that in some cases it is true. If the stories of women going to a different school, joining XYZ and then transferring back to the original school are in fact true, then it does seem it is about the sorority and not academics.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

But when we hear the stories of women who leave college when they don't get a bid to the chapter they want, it appears that in some cases it is true. If the stories of women going to a different school, joining XYZ and then transferring back to the original school are in fact true, then it does seem it is about the sorority and not academics.

But this isn't the norm anywhere. It may happen, but I think it's blown out of proportion.

If you had a couple of people doing crazy stuff at your institution, you wouldn't expect the whole system to be judged by their values.

[kk_bama]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But this isn't the norm anywhere. It may happen, but I think it's blown out of proportion.

If you had a couple of people doing crazy stuff at your institution, you wouldn't expect the whole system to be judged by their values.

Have any of y'all read the novel Eating the Cheshire Cat by Helen Ellis? It mentioned a girl who didn't get into DDD at UA and immediately goes down to Auburn so she can get into DDD there. Of course now that couldn't happen because UA and AU Recruitment happens at the same time. lol.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by kk_bama

Have any of y'all read the novel Eating the Cheshire Cat by Helen Ellis? It mentioned a girl who didn't get into DDD at UA and immediately goes down to Auburn so she can get into DDD there. Of course now that couldn't happen because UA and AU Recruitment happens at the same time. lol.

Well, that, and anyone knowledgeable would have rushed at Auburn first and transferred.

I'm kidding, really. It's possible someone really did think this way, but it wasn't normal.

[libelle]

Originally Posted by kk_bama

Have any of y'all read the novel Eating the Cheshire Cat by Helen Ellis? It mentioned a girl who didn't get into DDD at UA and immediately goes down to Auburn so she can get into DDD there. Of course now that couldn't happen because UA and AU Recruitment happens at the same time. lol.

Once upon a time the state universities in Alabama operated on different calendars. For eg Auburn and South (Alabama) were on the quarter system. Bama was on the semester system. Auburn and South began almost a month later than Bama. It was not unusual for a disappointed PNM to transfer to South which had/s a smaller Greek system. However, it would have been very unusual for a Bama student to transfer to Auburn. It would be heresy.

The calendars were rationalized so that everyone is on a semester calendar making it much easier to transfer among cc's and the universities. And now rush is almost concurrent across the campuses.

[littleowl33]

Originally Posted by libelle

Once upon a time the state universities in Alabama operated on different calendars. For eg Auburn and South (Alabama) were on the quarter system. Bama was on the semester system. Auburn and South began almost a month later than Bama. It was not unusual for a disappointed PNM to transfer to South which had/s a smaller Greek system. However, it would have been very unusual for a Bama student to transfer to Auburn. It would be heresy.

The calendars were rationalized so that everyone is on a semester calendar making it much easier to transfer among cc's and the universities. And now rush is almost concurrent across the campuses.

Out of curiosity, how is it possible to transfer from one University to another within a few weeks of the start of classes? That just seems like it's cutting it pretty close... can the student belatedly accept an offer of admission if she was accepted to both schools originally, or does she fill out a whole transfer app and go for rolling transfer admissions?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by littleowl33

Out of curiosity, how is it possible to transfer from one University to another within a few weeks of the start of classes? That just seems like it's cutting it pretty close... can the student belatedly accept an offer of admission if she was accepted to both schools originally, or does she fill out a whole transfer app and go for rolling transfer admissions?

That was a loooong time ago. If you ever read the book Goat Brothers (about Pi Kappa Alphas at Berkeley in the 1960s) it talks about how one of the characters hadn't decided yet on Berkeley or Stanford, but had signed letters of intent at both, and he chose the former because it was the first exit on the highway.

[BlueCarnation]

Originally Posted by littleowl33

Out of curiosity, how is it possible to transfer from one University to another within a few weeks of the start of classes? That just seems like it's cutting it pretty close... can the student belatedly accept an offer of admission if she was accepted to both schools originally, or does she fill out a whole transfer app and go for rolling transfer admissions?

Most likely, they have paid deposits at more than one school, since I think the cut off for decisions is something like June 1. This happened in my law school class. We started later than many other schools, and we had 4 people join us after having taking a few weeks of classes at other schools. They kept my school as a "back up," I guess.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by libelle

Once upon a time the state universities in Alabama operated on different calendars. For eg Auburn and South (Alabama) were on the quarter system. Bama was on the semester system. Auburn and South began almost a month later than Bama.

Was it really that long ago? I remember when Auburn and USA were on the quarters. There was another school that was on them as well, can't remember which one...

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by libelle

Once upon a time the state universities in Alabama operated on different calendars. For eg Auburn and South (Alabama) were on the quarter system. Bama was on the semester system. Auburn and South began almost a month later than Bama. It was not unusual for a disappointed PNM to transfer to South which had/s a smaller Greek system. However, it would have been very unusual for a Bama student to transfer to Auburn. It would be heresy.

The calendars were rationalized so that everyone is on a semester calendar making it much easier to transfer among cc's and the universities. And now rush is almost concurrent across the campuses.

There have been a handful of PNMs who didn't get their first choice at Alabama or Auburn and guess what? They transferred to Ole Miss. Since Auburn and Alabama have recruitment before their semesters starts and Ole Miss usually doesn't begin until the last week in August, it gives a student time to leave one school and head to another. I know of a PNM about 4 years ago who didn't get her first choice at Alabama and she did get that first choice here at Ole Miss. They just pay the fees for both schools and if they get their first choice they cancel their applications with the other school. If they don't get their first choice they come here and "withdraw" from the other University. I have seen it about a handful of times. But it does happen.
I also remember when I went through recruitment way back in 1996 (before they moved recruitment) there were two girls in my dorm who packed up and left and went to Mississippi State. They didn't get their first choice here so they figured they would get it at MSU. I personally don't agree with it at all. I can't believe some parents would even suggest or encourage it.

[Nhfulmer]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There have been a handful of PNMs who didn't get their first choice at Alabama or Auburn and guess what? They transferred to Ole Miss. Since Auburn and Alabama have recruitment before their semesters starts and Ole Miss usually doesn't begin until the last week in August, it gives a student time to leave one school and head to another. I know of a PNM about 4 years ago who didn't get her first choice at Alabama and she did get that first choice here at Ole Miss. They just pay the fees for both schools and if they get their first choice they cancel their applications with the other school. If they don't get their first choice they come here and "withdraw" from the other University. I have seen it about a handful of times. But it does happen.
I also remember when I went through recruitment way back in 1996 (before they moved recruitment) there were two girls in my dorm who packed up and left and went to Mississippi State. They didn't get their first choice here so they figured they would get it at MSU. I personally don't agree with it at all. I can't believe some parents would even suggest or encourage it.

I heard from an advisor at Bama that two girls transferred to Ole Miss this year after they were released after the first round. Don't know if it's true or not but she is always completely on top of things and in the know.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There have been a handful of PNMs who didn't get their first choice at Alabama or Auburn and guess what? They transferred to Ole Miss.

I personally know 2 girls who left Alabama after an unsuccessful recruitment and transferred to Auburn the next year. One pledged. The other did not...and transferred again to a smaller school and finally pledged a group.

And I've heard of it happening, but it's certainly not a common thing.

When I was in school, I remember our "rush chairman" calling both our Ole Miss and Miss. State chapters to swap names of girls who had done this...PNMs don't realize there is a good bit of communication...and I'm sure even more now that there's e-mail.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There have been a handful of PNMs who didn't get their first choice at Alabama or Auburn and guess what? They transferred to Ole Miss. Since Auburn and Alabama have recruitment before their semesters starts and Ole Miss usually doesn't begin until the last week in August, it gives a student time to leave one school and head to another. I know of a PNM about 4 years ago who didn't get her first choice at Alabama and she did get that first choice here at Ole Miss. They just pay the fees for both schools and if they get their first choice they cancel their applications with the other school. If they don't get their first choice they come here and "withdraw" from the other University. I have seen it about a handful of times. But it does happen.
I also remember when I went through recruitment way back in 1996 (before they moved recruitment) there were two girls in my dorm who packed up and left and went to Mississippi State. They didn't get their first choice here so they figured they would get it at MSU. I personally don't agree with it at all. I can't believe some parents would even suggest or encourage it.

Do these women then attempt to transfer BACK to their old school and affiliate with that chapter once they get a bid?

I've heard of that happening.

Like, Suzie gets released from ABC at Bama, so she transfers to Auburn, gets a bid to ABC, then transfers BACK to Bama and becomes a Bama ABC.

Or Suzie gets cut from ABC at Bama, so she transfers to Smaller Alabama University, pledges ABC and returns.

[Loyally Kappa]

Since I'm living in Oxford now and am teaching at Ole Miss, I am learning a little bit about what goes on here. I will say that the sorority and fraternity houses on on the Ole Miss campus are the most stunningly beautiful and highest quality that I have ever seen anywhere.

Sorority recruitment will occur September 20-27 this year. Classes begin this coming Monday, August 24. What I understand from other faculty members who have been around for awhile is that there used to be an exodus of young ladies transfering away from Ole Miss after rush who did not get the sorority they wanted. Not sure when this went into effect, but the dates are now set so that it will be too late for anyone to withdraw and transfer AND get their tuition money back. They are "stuck" for at least one semester and perhaps they will adjust to the situation.

'Course, now, this is my first semester here, so it will be interesting to see if recruitment disrupts classes. At first I couldn't fathom how they could get all of the parties in, but there are only 8 Panhellenic sororities here. According the schedule posted at http://www.dosolemiss.com/page.php?p...page_id=107788, they don't do a round of open parties.

Round 1 (Philanthropy Round): Sept. 23-24th
Round 2 (Skit Round): Sept. 25th
Round 3 (Preference Round): Sept. 26th
BID DAY: Sept. 27th

I count a total of 34 Rho Chis, so if I estimate 25 PNMs assigned to each, there ought to be around 850 girls going through recruitment here. One of them is a close friend of my daughter who just pledged Tri Delta at Alabama ... but there is nothing to stop me from sending an additional rec to the Kappa house now that I'm here, is there?

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

There have been a handful of PNMs who didn't get their first choice at Alabama or Auburn and guess what? They transferred to Ole Miss. Since Auburn and Alabama have recruitment before their semesters starts and Ole Miss usually doesn't begin until the last week in August, it gives a student time to leave one school and head to another. I know of a PNM about 4 years ago who didn't get her first choice at Alabama and she did get that first choice here at Ole Miss. They just pay the fees for both schools and if they get their first choice they cancel their applications with the other school. If they don't get their first choice they come here and "withdraw" from the other University. I have seen it about a handful of times. But it does happen.
I also remember when I went through recruitment way back in 1996 (before they moved recruitment) there were two girls in my dorm who packed up and left and went to Mississippi State. They didn't get their first choice here so they figured they would get it at MSU. I personally don't agree with it at all. I can't believe some parents would even suggest or encourage it.