What are the top 5 national Fraternities according to size?

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

It's also a bit sad when someone starts going off on 8-year-old (or older) posts, very few of which actually related size to quality (some specifically said the two have nothing to do with each other), and most of which were posted by people who haven't been seen here in ages.

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[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

It doesn't matter which organization you join. In the end, you only can join 1. You can't try them all out once being a brother so it's pretty stupid to honestly think outside of statistics that you are truely greater than another. You might as well start comparing races and thinking "Hmmm well there are less jews out there than christians so christians are better, yay!".

The college I go to Sigma Alpha Mu is the best. We do the most on campus, we have some of the most quality guys, I wouldn't ever pick another fraternity if given another chance. I think some of the best experiences in college happened with them and I wouldn't ever take anything back.

There is TKE, Sigma Chi, KA, SAE and even at some point Kappa Sig. Kappa Sig's colony died. SAE doesn't compare to our chapter. TKE is good, they are great guys but the involvement we have with campus and the way we do things has been proven to be better.

Sigma Chi is brand new, they are doing good but in no way are they the same type of men as SAMS. The things they do don't develop character nor prove you fufill being a true man like a SAM. Maybe at other colleges its different. I dunno, I personally don't care because im not a Sigma Chi.

Sigma Alpha Mu has 60 chapters. Reason being is that it's founded as originally being Jewish. Trying to market that is hard. Especially in the south. SAM dominates at colleges like FIU, Texas, Rutgers, Indiana, West Florida, Cornell, etc.

Pretty much every fraternity is good in specific colleges. PIKE is amazing I heard at FIU. PIKE got kicked out of UCF, potentially UF and even UWF. I think the award to the most hazing incidents ever was SAE. If you count the number they had it's probably the most. Either way, it happens. You have bad organizations, you have good.

Statistically, SAM is weak. Statisically Sigma Chi, SAE, PIKE, TKE and Sigma Phi Eplison are the best. I really dont care. I love my fraternity, and that's what actually counts in the end. Im sure SAM will grow over the next 20 years. I'm not worried. Because what we produce is quality and even if that's limited to where and when, it's all that counts in my opinion.

Not to mention, at least I know at my college SAMs are trustable and great people. Facualty and Staff like us. Girls like us. Most commities are ran by us. That IMO is a win for some organization that statistically looks bad.

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Quote from one of my favorite anti-hazing videos:

SAMMY SAMMY THEYRE EVERYWHERE, THEYRE EVERYWHERE, SAMMY SAMMY

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

I think it's sad when someone comes on a message board and resurrects an old post, just to trash a bunch of other fraternities. Congratulations - you're a credit to your organization.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

...truely...im....Statisically...Eplison...trustab le...Facualty...commities....

None of those are words.

Especially not "trustable."

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

None of those are words.

Especially not "trustable."

But he loves his fraternity, so it's OK. Spelling only matters when you're in a super-huge organization.

[angels&angles]

However poorly it was phrased, the SAM guy does sort of have a point -- it really shouldn't matter if the org is the biggest nationally. TPA is (I think) the smallest national sorority, but if their chapter is amazing and you feel it, join it! Likewise, if one of the older/more established/bigger groups isn't right for you, it shouldn't matter that they're the largest/oldest/what-have-you. Maybe it's a tie-breaker if you really can't decide between groups (you might think of it in terms of networking after graduation, which COULD make a difference), but overall, who cares? (Other than bragging rights).

So while it's an interesting concept to talk about who's the biggest (and for boys I have trouble seeing this as anything other than a euphemism for masculinity), but ultimately, SAM is right. Although he's still kind of a douche for saying it that way, and he needs to learn how to spell.

[FSUZeta]

what?

[pshsx1]

How's he right? All he did was advertise SAM.
He basically said, size doesn't matter, SAM is the shiz.

Wait, let me go get my recruitment papers so I can type up an essay, bash the other fraternities on my campus, and I'll be right too, yeah?

I don't think his post was at all (even subconsciously) about boasting masculinity; I think he was just being a pompous douche.

Originally Posted by joe-s-chop

I thought I read somewhere to go back to refer to older posts and even gave the links.

What are you talking about?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by angels&angles

However poorly it was phrased, the SAM guy does sort of have a point -- it really shouldn't matter if the org is the biggest nationally.

And that point had already been made quite a few times in the thread. There was no point in bumping an old thread to say that "some of you people make me sick," when the people who apparently make him sick said this stuff 8+ years ago.

Originally Posted by joe-s-chop

I thought I read somewhere to go back to refer to older posts and even gave the links.

Helle again, Tom.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Helle again, Tom.

I thought it was a Tom/BA combo.
Chop!

[SAM12588]

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

It is one thing to have pride in your orginzation, and another to bash others. Plus exactly do you mean a legit amount of chapters? aren't you the one who just finished saying size doesn't matter?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

The "haters" are talking because you bumped an eight-year-old thread to argue with folks who don't even post anymore. Take some time to get a feel for the boards before trying to bash people.

Obviously, we know the importance of finding our places in the Greek system. I doubt we'd be posting here if we didn't.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point.

No, I think you're missing the point. You've resurrected an 8-year-old thread just to make points already made, argue mainly with people who haven't posted here in years and unnecessarily trash other fraternities.

Maybe you should use your time to check out some history instead. Beta Theta Pi and Phi Delta Theta are both older than Sigma Chi and have what I assume would be a "legit amount" of chapters.

[SAM12588]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

No, I think you're missing the point. You've resurrected an 8-year-old thread just to make points already made, argue mainly with people who haven't posted here in years and unnecessarily trash other fraternities.

Maybe you should use your time to check out some history instead. Beta Theta Pi and Phi Delta Theta are both older than Sigma Chi and have what I assume would be a "legit amount" of chapters.

How many do they have? Since I remember doing the search and Delta Upsilon was the only ones with decent number of chapters left (as in the two digits at least).

Sorry I used google and found this thread. If it's not that important to you or if it makes you annoyed that I did so, just don't post. Don't be so immature about it.

Having pride in your organization doesn't mean Im bashing others. I love the TKEs, their like our brother fraternity at my school. I work with a KA and their tight too. That's not what I'm trying to say which again many are failing to miss the point. SAEs are basically our rivals since they crush us in greek week. Sigma Chi is very uprising and has big numbers which is good. These are facts that I am saying. Just because I said that SAM is the most involved on my campus doesn't mean the other organizations on my campus are bad nor does it mean that nobody else is good.

Which is a fact that at my college SAM does run stuff but that's because we work hard to do so . 1600-1700 community services hours in a year, 2 years in a row, half our SGA is SAM, lots of Orientation Leaders are SAMs, our homecoming committee is mainly SAMs, faculty that is mainly SAM alumnis and some actives, basically all events there is we are all there and doing what we can, we are actually a serious organization. Again, not bashing anyones organizations, but I have seen chapters that just party and die out in 3 years and don't care about anyone else and everybody at their college hates them with a passion.

I think SAM is great because it knows how to do a fraternity. If you seen some other organizations (not mentioning which) from what I heard about their rituals and how they operate, it's not nearly as legit. Some fraternities out there literally try to kill you or basically take advantage of you. Some don't make their rituals have meaning and some just love to fuck around with you or actually attempt manslaughter. You can't blame me for liking an organization that I feel like I can actually trust.

And you shouldn't blame me for thinking that. The fact that people still die in fraternity incidents is sad as hell. When I saw my U of Maryland chapter just closed for alchohol poisoning I just thought wow they should go to hell for ruining our name. Since after being at my school, I would never think it's like that anywhere else.

But yeah, again it's called everyone chapter is completely different, a fact of life that some need to get over. No fraternity is globally identical, but if you went greek and enjoyed it, then w/e anyone has to do say that's bull is bs.