What are the top 5 national Fraternities according to size?

[SAM12588]

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

It is one thing to have pride in your orginzation, and another to bash others. Plus exactly do you mean a legit amount of chapters? aren't you the one who just finished saying size doesn't matter?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point. Numbers are nice, but if you think you are everything, your missing the entire point of even being greek. The whole point is find some meaning while your at college and make it a memorable experience. If you join some organization for numbers, your completely destroying the point.

And numbers are sometimes for reasons. Sigma Chi was what the 7th fraternity ever founded? The only old fraternity that's older than them and has a legit amount of chapters is Delta Upsilon. Sigma Chi is 150 years old, started in 1855 verses SAM founded in 1909 and was restricted to Jewish only members and looking at their chapter role, they had 1 fraternity in the South until about after the 60's.

I mean im sorry if I have pride in an organization that has proven to to be good and continues to be good. If your organization is one of the largest chapters and is huge, then congratulations. Im just glad I found an organization that doesn't attempt to kill you but proves your manhood and makes you a better person.

The "haters" are talking because you bumped an eight-year-old thread to argue with folks who don't even post anymore. Take some time to get a feel for the boards before trying to bash people.

Obviously, we know the importance of finding our places in the Greek system. I doubt we'd be posting here if we didn't.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Um ok I dunno what some of you haters are complaining about but you miss the point.

No, I think you're missing the point. You've resurrected an 8-year-old thread just to make points already made, argue mainly with people who haven't posted here in years and unnecessarily trash other fraternities.

Maybe you should use your time to check out some history instead. Beta Theta Pi and Phi Delta Theta are both older than Sigma Chi and have what I assume would be a "legit amount" of chapters.

[SAM12588]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

No, I think you're missing the point. You've resurrected an 8-year-old thread just to make points already made, argue mainly with people who haven't posted here in years and unnecessarily trash other fraternities.

Maybe you should use your time to check out some history instead. Beta Theta Pi and Phi Delta Theta are both older than Sigma Chi and have what I assume would be a "legit amount" of chapters.

How many do they have? Since I remember doing the search and Delta Upsilon was the only ones with decent number of chapters left (as in the two digits at least).

Sorry I used google and found this thread. If it's not that important to you or if it makes you annoyed that I did so, just don't post. Don't be so immature about it.

Having pride in your organization doesn't mean Im bashing others. I love the TKEs, their like our brother fraternity at my school. I work with a KA and their tight too. That's not what I'm trying to say which again many are failing to miss the point. SAEs are basically our rivals since they crush us in greek week. Sigma Chi is very uprising and has big numbers which is good. These are facts that I am saying. Just because I said that SAM is the most involved on my campus doesn't mean the other organizations on my campus are bad nor does it mean that nobody else is good.

Which is a fact that at my college SAM does run stuff but that's because we work hard to do so . 1600-1700 community services hours in a year, 2 years in a row, half our SGA is SAM, lots of Orientation Leaders are SAMs, our homecoming committee is mainly SAMs, faculty that is mainly SAM alumnis and some actives, basically all events there is we are all there and doing what we can, we are actually a serious organization. Again, not bashing anyones organizations, but I have seen chapters that just party and die out in 3 years and don't care about anyone else and everybody at their college hates them with a passion.

I think SAM is great because it knows how to do a fraternity. If you seen some other organizations (not mentioning which) from what I heard about their rituals and how they operate, it's not nearly as legit. Some fraternities out there literally try to kill you or basically take advantage of you. Some don't make their rituals have meaning and some just love to fuck around with you or actually attempt manslaughter. You can't blame me for liking an organization that I feel like I can actually trust.

And you shouldn't blame me for thinking that. The fact that people still die in fraternity incidents is sad as hell. When I saw my U of Maryland chapter just closed for alchohol poisoning I just thought wow they should go to hell for ruining our name. Since after being at my school, I would never think it's like that anywhere else.

But yeah, again it's called everyone chapter is completely different, a fact of life that some need to get over. No fraternity is globally identical, but if you went greek and enjoyed it, then w/e anyone has to do say that's bull is bs.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

How many do they have? Since I remember doing the search and Delta Upsilon was the only ones with decent number of chapters left (as in the two digits at least).

Sorry I used google and found this thread. If it's not that important to you or if it makes you annoyed that I did so, just don't post. Don't be so immature about it.

Having pride in your organization doesn't mean Im bashing others. I love the TKEs, their like our brother fraternity at my school. I work with a KA and he's tight too. That's not what I'm trying to say which again many are failing to miss the point.

I think SAM is great because it knows how to do a fraternity.If you seen some other organizations (not mentioning which) from what I heard about their rituals and how they operate, it's not nearly as legit. Some fraternities out there literally try to kill you or basically take advantage of you. Some don't make their rituals have meaning and some just love to fuck around with you or actually attempt manslaughter.

And you shouldn't blame me for thinking that. The fact that people still die in fraternity incidents is sad as hell. When I saw my U of Maryland chapter just closed for alchohol poisoning I just thought wow they should go to hell for ruining our name. Since after being at my school, I would never think it's like that anywhere else.

But yeah, again it's called everyone chapter is completely different, a fact of life that some need to get over. No fraternity is global indenical and all the newer fraternities are just playing catchup to get their numbers big.

This entire post gave me a stroke

You're a hypocrite.

And LOL @ SAM knowing how to "do" a fraternity.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

And LOL @ SAM knowing how to "do" a fraternity.

I bet this SAM knows how to do a fraternity!!

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I bet this SAM knows how to do a fraternity!!

You are on quite a roll, 33girl!

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

How many do they have? Since I remember doing the search and Delta Upsilon was the only ones with decent number of chapters left (as in the two digits at least).

Sorry I used google and found this thread. If it's not that important to you or if it makes you annoyed that I did so, just don't post. Don't be so immature about it.

Having pride in your organization doesn't mean Im bashing others. I love the TKEs, their like our brother fraternity at my school. I work with a KA and their tight too. That's not what I'm trying to say which again many are failing to miss the point. SAEs are basically our rivals since they crush us in greek week. Sigma Chi is very uprising and has big numbers which is good. These are facts that I am saying. Just because I said that SAM is the most involved on my campus (which is a fact, we have the most people out there doing stuff,1600-1700 community services hours in a year, 2 years in a row, yeah Im pretty sure that's involved) and just great guys trying to make college better for everything, doesn't mean I am putting you down. We made greatness, unlike some organizations that brag about being great and haven't done anything for their local community.

I think SAM is great because it knows how to do a fraternity. If you seen some other organizations (not mentioning which) from what I heard about their rituals and how they operate, it's not nearly as legit. Some fraternities out there literally try to kill you or basically take advantage of you. Some don't make their rituals have meaning and some just love to fuck around with you or actually attempt manslaughter. You can't blame me for liking an organization that I feel like I can actually trust.

And you shouldn't blame me for thinking that. The fact that people still die in fraternity incidents is sad as hell. When I saw my U of Maryland chapter just closed for alchohol poisoning I just thought wow they should go to hell for ruining our name. Since after being at my school, I would never think it's like that anywhere else.

But yeah, again it's called everyone chapter is completely different, a fact of life that some need to get over. No fraternity is globally identical and all the newer fraternities are just playing catchup to get their numbers big.

First off I would like to mention that the KA Society is by your definition legit in that it has 26 chapters and it is considered the first fraternity. Second just because somebody operates differently then you do doesn't mean they are a good organization. I would love to see where you see in an organizations rituals that allow the type of behavior you are condemning. And as for you making fun of new fraternities, SAM isn't even 100 years old yet.

[SAM12588]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

First off I would like to mention that the KA Society is by your definition legit in that it has 26 chapters and it is considered the first fraternity. Second just because somebody operates differently then you do doesn't mean they are a good organization. I would love to see where you see in an organizations rituals that allow the type of behavior you are condemning. And as for you making fun of new fraternities, SAM isn't even 100 years old yet.

It surprises me how fellow greeks as yourself fail to understand where I am coming from. BTW it's SAM's 100 anniversary this year =)

I never said that other organizations are greater or less than Sigma Alpha Mu. I am just claiming that I have seen greatness in my organization and I am very proud of it. Your acting as I shouldn't have any right to say Sigma Alpha Mu is a great organization and the chapter I was in knew how to run things correctly.

I went to a small college, not a large one which is probably a huge factor. I am sure you have good organizations at large schools, but I have seen it to be more common at larger colleges for fraternities to actually haze and pretty much defile the entire concept of a fraternity. There are lots of people that take it too far. I am not saying you can't reproduce what SAM does, but some people think they do and they normally don't. A pure example of this is a college where SAM is at and it's not #1. Oh well, that's normal. Or a college that doesn't have SAM. Who cares?

My chapter works hard to be a good fraternity and produces results. Are you jealous because yours doesn't? I just don't understand why your acting all offended that my organization just happens to be the most dominant at my college. You don't see me getting mad if your organization was the best at your college.

[DEVODUDE]

BTW it's SAM's 100 anniversary this year

If no one here said it, then let me be the first to say....HAPPY 100th ANNIVERSARY TO SAM!!!!!

Either way a Jewish only fraternity for half of it's fraternity life-span is naturally not going to have alot of chapters. Look at ZBT and AEP. They are pretty much on the same boat.

And just an FYI...ZBT is not a Jewish only fraternity....it has been a nonsectarian fraternity for the last 20 years. I cannot say the same for AEPi. I am not familar with the composition of their brotherhood.

ZBT:"Honoring the Past, Celebrating the Present & Impacting the Future."

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

How many do they have? Since I remember doing the search and Delta Upsilon was the only ones with decent number of chapters left (as in the two digits at least).

Why does it matter? I thought your point was that numbers don't correllate to how strong a fraternity is (which most here would agree with).

But since you asked (and if two digits is your criteria of "legit"):

Some fraternities older than Sigma Chi (1855):

Kappa Alpha Society (1825): 14 active chapters
Sigma Phi (1827): 10 active chapters
Delta Phi (1827): 14 active chapters
Psi Upsilon (1833): 28 active chapters
Delta Upsilon (1834): 84 active chapters
Beta Theta Pi (1839): 118 active chapters and colonies
Chi Psi (1841): 29 active chapters
Delta Kappa Epsilon (1844): 66 active chapters
Theta Delta Chi (1847): 31 active chapters and colonies
Zeta Psi (1847): 47 active chapters
Phi Delta Theta (1848): 160 active chapters and colonies
Phi Gamma Delta (1848): 120 active chapters and colonies
Phi Kappa Psi (1852): 97 active chapters and colonies
Alpha Sigma Phi (1854): 68 cative chapters

(Members of these groups, correct me please if my numbers are wrong.)

Sorry I used google and found this thread. If it's not that important to you or if it makes you annoyed that I did so, just don't post. Don't be so immature about it.

Good grief. The one being immature here, if anyone is, is you. Before you post on a forum where you're new, you might want to take some time to get a feel for it. That you way, you might learn that you are likely to get some heat when you resurrect an old thread just to say "you people make me sick" and make points already made years ago.

Having pride in your organization doesn't mean Im bashing others. . . . If you seen some other organizations (not mentioning which) from what I heard about their rituals and how they operate, it's not nearly as legit. Some fraternities out there literally try to kill you or basically take advantage of you. Some don't make their rituals have meaning and some just love to fuck around with you or actually attempt manslaughter.

Not to mention that, according to you, the Sigma Chis at your school "don't develop character nor prove you fufill being a true man."

But you're not bashing other fraternities.

[SAM12588]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Why does it matter? I thought your point was that numbers don't correllate to how strong a fraternity is (which most here would agree with).

But since you asked (and if two digits is your criteria of "legit"):

Some fraternities older than Sigma Chi (1855):

Kappa Alpha Society (1825): 14 active chapters
Sigma Phi (1827): 10 active chapters
Delta Phi (1827): 14 active chapters
Psi Upsilon (1833): 28 active chapters
Delta Upsilon (1834): 84 active chapters
Beta Theta Pi (1839): 118 active chapters and colonies
Chi Psi (1841): 29 active chapters
Delta Kappa Epsilon (1844): 66 active chapters
Theta Delta Chi (1847): 31 active chapters and colonies
Zeta Psi (1847): 47 active chapters
Phi Delta Theta (1848): 160 active chapters and colonies
Phi Gamma Delta (1848): 120 active chapters and colonies
Phi Kappa Psi (1852): 97 active chapters and colonies
Alpha Sigma Phi (1854): 68 cative chapters

(Members of these groups, correct me please if my numbers are wrong.)

Good grief. The one being immature here, if anyone is, is you. Before you post on a forum where you're new, you might want to take some time to get a feel for it. That you way, you might learn that you are likely to get some heat when you resurrect an old thread just to say "you people make me sick" and make points already made years ago.

Not to mention that, according to you, the Sigma Chis at your school "don't develop character nor prove you fufill being a true man."

But you're not bashing other fraternities.

No offense, but it happens. I am sure there is a SAM chapter that sucks which I have seen. While Sigma Chi has good guys, I don't see any of them doing as much as SAMs do at my school and some of the things they have done, just show something isn't right.

And ok fair enough but still many go for Sigma Chi just because of the name and the alumni. When I rushed at my college, I rushed Sigma Chi because of the name. I didn't go with them in the end since I felt as I connected better with SAM.

Either way a Jewish only fraternity for half of it's fraternity life-span is naturally not going to have alot of chapters. Look at ZBT and AEP. They are pretty much on the same boat.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

How many do they have?....

Fantastic, you like your fraternity. Congratulations to you. Still no reason to take shots at other fraternities, take shots at others' rituals (which, to be honest, you probably don't even know), or to post the rest of this garbage.

[SAM12588]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Fantastic, you like your fraternity. Congratulations to you. Still no reason to take shots at other fraternities, take shots at others' rituals (which, to be honest, you probably don't even know), or to post the rest of this garbage.

I'm not taking shots at their ritual but when you see people literally die going greek, do you think that's ok? I think not.

And sides, rituals are not all identical nationwide. Chapters most likely have to localize them usually depending on their location so don't think because I don't like a certain way a ritual is done (usually because it's flat out bad and isn't smart) doesn't mean I don't like anyone elses ritual.