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[Dreadloc'd Diva]

First of all,I hated Bush and everything he stood for! Second of all,didn't Obama ask for bi-paritisanship when he got in office? All he is getting is Republicans bitching about one thing or another!

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

If you are striving for people to be fair to Obama, then you might want to re-think whether Bush and his policies were solely responsible for leaving the economy in a mess.

If you're going to use the-buck-stops-with-the-President standard for Bush, then you're going to have to expect other people to use it with Obama.

[SWTXBelle]

WHOOSH

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

WHOOSH

Thank you for this.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Dreadloc'd Diva

First of all,I hated Bush and everything he stood for! Second of all,didn't Obama ask for bi-paritisanship when he got in office? All he is getting is Republicans bitching about one thing or another!

Just because Obama asked for bipartisanship doesn't mean that he's entitled to absolute agreement on every piece of legislation he pushes, or every piece of policy he supports. Every President asks for bipartisanship, and every President points out when the other side is holding up the works - however there's nothing saying that the other party is required to back the President if they think he's advocating measures that aren't in the best interests in the country.

It's all a give and take, a series of checks and balances.

ETA: He has gotten bipartisanship, although maybe not in the way he intended...haven't both Democrats and Republicans come out against the healthcare legislation?

[Dreadloc'd Diva]

You make an excellent point,but the fact is cleaning up two wars and the economy requires unity,and it seems to me that there is very little bipartisanship.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Just because Obama asked for bipartisanship doesn't mean that he's entitled to absolute agreement on every piece of legislation he pushes, or every piece of policy he supports. Every President asks for bipartisanship, and every President points out when the other side is holding up the works - however there's nothing saying that the other party is required to back the President if they think he's advocating measures that aren't in the best interests in the country.

It's all a give and take, a series of checks and balances.

ETA: He has gotten bipartisanship, although maybe not in the way he intended...haven't both Democrats and Republicans come out against the healthcare legislation?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Dreadloc'd Diva

You make an excellent point,but the fact is cleaning up two wars and the economy requires unity,and it seems to me that there is very little bipartisanship.

Diva, he shouldn't need bipartisanship if his party controls both houses of congress. If he can't make his stuff happen under these conditions, it's not because the GOP threw up blocks.

Apparently, by bipartisanship, you seem to mean the GOP embracing Obama's policies and vision. That's not really how most people understand the term, I don't think.

[Dreadloc'd Diva]

I don't mean that the GOP should embrace his vision at all,but the only vision that both parties should have is rebuilding America. As I said,both parties will agree to disagree,but a little help from the other side wouldn't hurt.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Diva, he shouldn't need bipartisanship if his party controls both houses of congress. If he can't make his stuff happen under these conditions, it's not because the GOP threw up blocks.

Apparently, but bipartisanship, you seem to mean the GOP embracing Obama's policies and vision. That's not really how most people understand the term, I don't think.

[SWTXBelle]

So is the GOP singing "The Winner Takes It All" or "Take a Chance on Me"?

I love me some ABBA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tfyDWIRndc (TWTIA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_IGxXxsoE8 (TACOM)

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Dreadloc'd Diva

I don't mean that the GOP should embrace his vision at all,but the only vision that both parties should have is rebuilding America. As I said,both parties will agree to disagree,but a little help from the other side wouldn't hurt.

"Rebuilding America" means different things to different people. It's entirely possible that some people think that Obama's policies and rhetoric are continuing the downturn, rather than contributing to any "building."