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07-24-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
So you have to experience to be able to give an experienced professional opinion on it?
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No.
deepimpact doesn't know what she's talking about.
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07-24-2009, 10:14 AM
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 I tire of the victim approach to conflict on GC. Man up and stop whining because "people don't like you."
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07-24-2009, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
My problem is with the comments that show a distinct refusal to consider that it just might actually bE racism.
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The same as your refusal to consider that it just might actually NOT BE racism.
ETA: agzg, I'm also tired of it. What gets me is when posters like deepimpact preface almost every post with "you all will disagree with me" and "I knew you all would say this."
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07-24-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
The same as your refusal to consider that it just might actually NOT BE racism.
ETA: agzg, I'm also tired of it. What gets me is when posters like deepimpact preface almost every post with "you all will disagree with me" and "I knew you all would say this."
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Yup...
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07-24-2009, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
"you all will disagree with me" and "I knew you all would say this."
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I was flattered that she thought about me at all. If anything, she is less able to see when there is no racism because so far, she wants to see racism in every imaginable situation.
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07-24-2009, 10:41 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, posters need to recognize that their posting style plays into how they are percieved as the person tied to the username. If people are constantly throwing offhand and oftentimes offensive remarks into their posts, they're going to be percieved as an offensive poster.
For a poster to turn around and play the victim while ignoring their own offensive or, let's face it, just plain stupid, comments ties the association that the OP is obtuse to them for several months or years down the line.
In short: Deal with it and stop playing the m-fing victim.
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07-24-2009, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
I was flattered that she thought about me at all. If anything, she is less able to see when there is no racism because so far, she wants to see racism in every imaginable situation.
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Kevin
You are by far the biggest racist I have ever met on online on GC. 
...hehe...I couldn't say that with a straight face.....heheheheh...I think i have a problem with lying!
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07-24-2009, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
HEY! Everyone could then sing "We Are The World", thus tying it all together with a Michael Jackson bow!
And there aren't "generic" responses from whites, any more than there are from minorities. Just in this thread we've seen a wide variety of responses from all over the color and political spectrum. We ALL contain multitudes, to borrow from Whitman.
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I love posts with literary allusions.
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07-24-2009, 11:32 AM
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I love posts with literary allusions.
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Rearlly....
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07-24-2009, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
As for your question about the cop ID information, I did not mean for you to interpret my statement as saying that was the reason it was thrown out. My point was that they not only threw the case out because they couldn't maintain the charge, but also because they were hoping to avoid having him file a complaint because the officer did not comply with his request.
Finally, while words CAN escalate to the point where those "requirements" are met, the key word is CAN. There is still nothing to indicate that this is what happened. Despite the fact that there are hundreds of accounts of what happened, the fact remains is that the only thing they have been able to say was that Dr. Gates repeatedly asked for the officer's information and was angry. He didn't hit anyone, he didn't swing at anyone, and he didn't do anything that they could point to that created a hazardous environment.
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Good post, I agree with basically everything you've said here - I still think it's important to point out where our platitudes fail, and anecdotal evidence sucks, but I like the explanation you've given here.
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07-24-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
Good post, I agree with basically everything you've said here - I still think it's important to point out where our platitudes fail, and anecdotal evidence sucks, but I like the explanation you've given here.
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Really?
Even about what Gates was doing? Isn't that pretty significant in evaluating the overall event and how racially motivated it was?
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07-24-2009, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Rearlly....
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Isn't this from an e.e. cummings poem? 
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07-24-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
My problem is with the comments that show a distinct refusal to consider that it just might actually bE racism. And I have issues with some because in more than one thread concerning incidents that appear to be racist, these individuals immediately discount the black person's claims. Quite frankly, you can tell where someone's head is by what they write on a message board. All I'm saying is that some of the responses do indicate a certain level of prejudice or bias or racism.
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
The same as your refusal to consider that it just might actually NOT BE racism.
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Exactly what I was going to say.
Every thread deepimpact gets involved in seems to have numerous posts in a very short period of time (usually analyzing how she responds to people), and other posters always beat me to the punch. I mean, two full pages before lunchtime... that's impressive.
But anyway, in reference to what I have made bold in the original quote... You talk about "typical" responses from people regarding situations that appear to be racist, in which posters immediately discount the black person's claims. I'm sorry, but I don't call out "racism!" like you have in your previous posts when it comes to a situation like this Gates case, which has crossed so far into the gray area of speculation, hearsay and half-truths, that no one truly knows what happened. It's kind of like that whole innocent until proven guilty thing.
And do you find yourself constantly on the side of the black people (in addition to constantly calling people on this board racist?) I think that would make you a judgmental racist, also! Welcome to the club.
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07-24-2009, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
And do you find yourself constantly on the side of the black people (in addition to constantly calling people on this board racist?) I think that would make you a judgmental racist, also!
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You lost me here. She can be judgmental and prejudiced but her instantly siding with Blacks on such issues would not make her racist.
/see all of the previous "what is racism" threads
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07-24-2009, 12:37 PM
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Boston MA lawyer's take
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